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by **lovetogarden** » Sat 06 Dec, 2003 6:33 pm

I'm also finding that my system is becoming drained. I had to reconfigure choosing selective startup and desellecting :winstart.bat file and load startup group. Seems in my case that there was so much memory being used in startup programs it was draining the system.. So far so good, though I no longer have the always open netscape icon on my task bar.

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by **profman** » Sat 06 Dec, 2003 10:49 pm

lovetogarden wrote:I'm also finding that my system is becoming drained. I had to reconfigure choosing selective startup and desellecting :winstart.bat file and load startup group. Seems in my case that there was so much memory being used in startup programs it was draining the system.. So far so good, though I no longer have the always open netscape icon on my task bar.

It is always a good idea to prune out un-needed start up programs, especially on pre-configured systems that you buy at a store.

Just remember that Netscape 7.02 doe not have the memory leak of 7.1 and is an excellent browser choice for Windows 98, although I prefer Mozilla 1.5.

I'm not sure about your comment about the taskbar. If you are referring to the Quick Launch feature of Netscape, it is usually not a good idea to have that engaged. On the other hand, I do like having my Netscape or Mozilla icons in the Quick Launch Toolbar (which I usually have on the lower left hand side of my Windows).

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by **bmac50** » Sun 07 Dec, 2003 10:28 am

I seem to be missing something here because I can't seem to MAKE any type of system drainage problem. I really have to wonder if this problem isn't caused by IE for most users. I used 7.02 and 7.1 with the same results, never any lower that 64% but usually 72% and this is with running two firewalls (ZA&Kerio), eTrust antivirus, MailWasher and myNetWatchmen.

I have removed IE with 98lite and yes there was some growing pains but it was so long ago I really don't remember what they were.
http://www.litepc.com/download.html
What I do remember is my resources jumped and it was like I had either bought a new computer or added a ton of memory

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by **jsjag** » Mon 05 Jan, 2004 8:48 pm

Hm? I am new to NS 7.1 and haven't had any problems. I recently fled AOL 9.0 due to terrible problems and I wanted to be able to use POP 3 with my COntact Manager program. I have my virtual memory set to drive D: using 3000 / 3000. I also use Cacheman.

With NS running I also have my Contact Manager running (large database); WordPerfect 9.0; a fax/voice mail program; a virus program and I have no problems. I run Win 98 S1, 466 MHZ, 256 RAM, 8 gig c drive and 80 gig d drive.

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by **edmartin** » Sun 11 Jan, 2004 1:41 pm

I've been using Netscape V7.1 since the Disk was first distributed and
have had nothing but outstanding results with it. I find it far faster in almost every respect that Internet Explorer. The only time I use IE is
to download and install patches. I'm using the Me Operating System,
keep it up to date change wise, and at the end of the day I run all the diagnostics including the Norton Register checker to fix Registry
errors, if any. After this is done I clean up the caches, dump the garbage and get rid of the Windows/TEMP files.
At the Club I attend, I've heard the same problems stories about W95, Wp98 and XP. Most of the problems, I believe. can be attributed
improper installation, poor housekeeping and overload. One fellow at the Club has about 60G of Programs on his hard drive with icons all over the place and so many shortcuts on the desktop, it was like running a maize to find the shortcut you were looking for. On top of that he had all the Norton Programs start and run at boot. In all about 40 programs starting at startup. At the end of the Boot cycle
practically all his resourses were used up. Someone cheched his hard disk using Speed Disk and found that it was only 30% unfragnented.
I'm not implying that people do not keep their system cleaned up. I'm offering a few suggestions which may make you syatem operate better by giving it a chance to perform.

Respectfully,
edmartin

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by **jsjag** » Sat 17 Jan, 2004 12:29 pm

I aggree that most people never clean up the OEM mess that is shipped with their computers. For some reason the OEM thinks everythig including the kitchen sink must load at boot.

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by **Wellander** » Mon 26 Jan, 2004 11:55 pm

jsjag wrote:I aggree that most people never clean up the OEM mess that is shipped with their computers. For some reason the OEM thinks everythig including the kitchen sink must load at boot.

Hi,
When You buy computers also Purchase a version of windows seperaly and take the oem version out.
That is what I do.
Then No More oem stuff that you do not what.
Who needs oem versions of windows.

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by **Antony** » Tue 27 Jan, 2004 12:43 am

Wellander wrote:
jsjag wrote:I aggree that most people never clean up the OEM mess that is shipped with their computers. For some reason the OEM thinks everythig including the kitchen sink must load at boot.

Hi,
When You buy computers also Purchase a version of windows seperaly and take the oem version out.
That is what I do.
Then No More oem stuff that you do not what.
Who needs oem versions of windows.

Why?
Windows for PC without Windows (a.k.a. stand-alone version) costs a lot more.
Anything wrong with OEM?

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by **Wellander** » Tue 27 Jan, 2004 1:16 am

Antony wrote:
Wellander wrote:
jsjag wrote:I aggree that most people never clean up the OEM mess that is shipped with their computers. For some reason the OEM thinks everythig including the kitchen sink must load at boot.

Hi,
When You buy computers also Purchase a version of windows seperaly and take the oem version out.
That is what I do.
Then No More oem stuff that you do not what.
Who needs oem versions of windows.
Why?
Windows for PC without Windows (a.k.a. stand-alone version) costs a lot more.
Anything wrong with OEM?

Hi,
Why? I do not like the oem stuff and I want to have the tow free support incedents form microsoft.
Also I do not want to use the most current version of windows.
Anything worng? No just do not like it.

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by **Antony** » Tue 27 Jan, 2004 2:16 am

Wellander wrote:Hi,
Why? I do not like the oem stuff and I want to have the tow free support incedents form microsoft.
Also I do not want to use the most current version of windows.
Anything worng? No just do not like it.

I don't think you've justified enough to backup your suggestions earlier.
The only difference in OEM and stand-alone so far (you listed) is the two free support incidents.
Is that all?

"Just don't like it" is usually not a good reason in a technical support forum. Also, please check your spellings before posting.

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by **Mandrake** » Tue 27 Jan, 2004 2:31 am

So why purchase a computer with an OS if you just plan on removing it? If you work in the IT field, surely you could just create your own computers and purchase the OS seperately, saving quite a bit of money. If you do insist on purchasing from vendors such as Dell, one can easily request a different OS on the computer, rather than the default XP Home. It's easy, and doesn't cost that much more, to get Windows 2000 Professional or Windows XP Professional rather than XP Home.

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by **Wellander** » Tue 27 Jan, 2004 2:45 am

Hi,
So I can purchace it at a store rather them catalog or online or the phone.
What I do is keep the driver disks (for driver installation) and them use my cd shreadder to shread the OEM os cd's.
I know that companies will ship it with windows 2000 professional.
But this was stupid.
I do mostly build my own computers for home.

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by **Antony** » Tue 27 Jan, 2004 3:51 am

With OEM version of Windows, it is required to ship with a copy of Windows in CD or other media. Hence you are allowed to reformat or change any settings if you wish.

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by **Fulvio** » Tue 27 Jan, 2004 1:24 pm

My son's laptop came with WinXP, but no CD.

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by **Mandrake** » Tue 27 Jan, 2004 6:13 pm

Is it by chance an HP laptop? They generally have a seperate partition on the hard disk that contains the install files incase you need to reinstall Windows, which you do via some kind of 'Recovery Disk' . . .

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