SillyDog701

[k27102]

Hello. I am wondering why my 6.2.3 stand alone keeps asking for plugins but my IE 4.01 does not. I thought that things like Java were part of Windows and would therefor run in 6.2.3.

An example is the Housecall site http://housecall.trendmicro.com/. At the second page 6.2.3 asks for a plugin but 4.01 does not. Another example is the NSW Radar Loop site http://weather.noaa.gov/radar/loop/DS.p ... kpbz.shtml
Again 6.2.3 wants a plugin but 4.01 does not.

Please guide me as to if 6.2.3 can use the 4.01 plugins or, if I have to download some, which ones are absolute the minimum to use web pages.

I deligently keep my computer clean of viruses and programs running in the background to a minimum.

Thanks a lot, Helen

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[Fulvio]

Internet Explorer is part of the operating system, so plugins are not needed for it, because they are there.
However, Netscape needs it own brand of plugins. If you install Java, you will see that you will be given options to get the IE or Netscape, or both versions.
In the case of Trend Micro, it requires Active X, which is not avaiilable in 6.2.3, as far as I remember. The 7 series of Netscape have been around for a while, and, I forgot all about the 6.x series.
But, I happen to be using a test version of 6.1, and I can see what you mean.
The fact you are using Win05 complicates things, a bit.
Right now, I am not in position to help you with the appropriate links.

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[k27102]

Well, that explains some of the problem. Thanks for the explanation. I know I'm still using a W-9x but the experiences I've had with XP just plain scares me. People using it have asked me for help. It seems that you can't get to where you need to go and be allowed to make changes that you need to in XP. If you can get there it is usually complicated. I thought that a person's computer is theirs, not Bill Gates'. Overall I'm happy with the 9x's operating systems and need to find a user friendly OS for a new computer in the near future. Any suggestions?

Thanks again, Helen

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[Al]

Well, that explains some of the problem. Thanks for the explanation. I know I'm still using a W-9x but the experiences I've had with XP just plain scares me. People using it have asked me for help. It seems that you can't get to where you need to go and be allowed to make changes that you need to in XP. If you can get there it is usually complicated. I thought that a person's computer is theirs, not Bill Gates'. Overall I'm happy with the 9x's operating systems and need to find a user friendly OS for a new computer in the near future. Any suggestions?

Thanks again, Helen

You could try installing the Mozilla Active X plugin, then 7.2/or 1.7.3 and upgrade to 98SE

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[Andrew T.]

Hello Helen,

You will need a Java plugin installed to view the content on the first page you linked to. The second page you linked to I'm less sure about...in addition to Java, it suspect it may require an odd ActiveX control or some-such, and would be best avoiding due to the notorious insecurity of the technology: Do you really want websites to be able to scan the contents of your computer. There is an ActiveX plugin available for Netscape and Mozilla, but I have not tested it, and do not know if that would work in this case.

I would recommend installing the Java 2 Runtime Environment, version 1.4.0. I would also recommend installing theMacromedia Flash 7 plugin if you don't already have it installed to view most web content in that format. There are more recent versions of these plugins available, but these are the newest versions that I can testify are compatible with Windows 95...which I use myself.

As far as browsers are concerned, Netscape 6.2.3 is rather old. You have the option of running a newer browser such as Mozilla 1.7.3 (which is just like Netscape save proprietary AOL features) or Netscape 7.2 on Windows 95, although it is important that you have items such as the Windows Library Update installed in order to do so. Also, Netscape 7.2's support on Windows 95 is unofficial; you may want to review this thread: "Does Netscape 7.1/7.2 Support Windows 95?"

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[Fulvio]

Well, that explains some of the problem. Thanks for the explanation. I know I'm still using a W-9x but the experiences I've had with XP just plain scares me. People using it have asked me for help. It seems that you can't get to where you need to go and be allowed to make changes that you need to in XP. If you can get there it is usually complicated. I thought that a person's computer is theirs, not Bill Gates'. Overall I'm happy with the 9x's operating systems and need to find a user friendly OS for a new computer in the near future. Any suggestions?

Thanks again, Helen

This is strictly my opinion, so take it with a grain of salt.
To me WinXP is the best Windows OS around. You have to use the patches like the old days, but you should know what you are getting into. No SP2 for this guy, but only specific fixes, which my autoupdate is feeding me.
I have Win98SE on my other computer, but it is, strictly, for offline use.
Any change is scary, but not so bad if you do some homework.
Yes, the computer hardware is yours, but all software is sort of "for rent".I did a careful comparison, and I came out with the conclusion that Windows is much more compatible with older software than Mac's. There may be no support in some cases, but one can use the same software of today with Windows of yesterday, and last week's. Try to do that with Macs.
As for Active X controls, they are not as bad as they are described. I had an old reference of 1996, which described Active X controls as an atom bomb on your computer. This is true to a point, with malicious web sites downloading viruses and trojan, especially that long ago. Active X bad reputation has continued through the years, and people feel that just being able to access sites which use Active X controls will cause irreparable damage to your computer. It is still possible that Active X controls are not good for you, but what is the alternative if you want to use AntiVirus online scanning? Not use the sites, or use IE to scan? Give me a break!
If you want to use Trend Micro scanning, they tell you Active X controls are needed, so you use them.
As for the rest of the Web, it does not matter what means of transportation you use, but, if you go in a bad neighborhood, your chances of beating jumped are higher than in a nice area.
So, get the facts, and make appropriate decisions.

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