Hurricane Katrina + Rita hit New Orleans and Gulf Coast

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Postby Ron Williams » Thu 01 Sep, 2005 10:17 pm

Don_HH2K wrote:I doubt exactly that will happen, because people will want 'good' food that can easily spoil.


I am sure if it was rice or nothing, rice would become a delicacy.
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Postby Lorraine » Fri 02 Sep, 2005 11:45 pm

Antony wrote:
Don_HH2K wrote:Yet more that I don't understand about our own government . . .

Ronnie outlined some plans to me last night in which either the government or the Red Cross or somebody could supply the victims with food and drinking water. They could bring in water purifiers that would filter and clean the water of salt, bacteria, and other things that people wouldn't want to be drinking, since there's water all around them. Helicopters could always land on high buildings and deliver the needed diesel fuel to run those machines. Plus, they could always deliver simple-to-cook food such as what's supplied in the army -- things that don't need refrigeration and only need an open flame and water to cook. Take rice, for example. Yes, it's a good idea, but for some reason I doubt exactly that will happen, because people will want 'good' food that can easily spoil.
Well, you can't purify those water (mixed with sewage water, rubbish, petrol) with small water purifying kits (usually for homes).
How can US government and emergency workers guarantee *purified* water are safe?
I simply don't think you want to hear things like, particularly if you are American... "one of the world's most technology advanced countries is providing its citizens purified sewage water for drinking."


I understand that Canada has a ship leaving on Tuesday with supplies. It will probably take a few days to arrive. We are experts at purifying water. They said they would send them if needed along with other experts in other fields. I live about 10-20 minutes from Montreal.

We had the remnants of Katrina on Wednesday, knocked power out of about 12,000 homes. Also a few trees are down. There is one down on my street. Mine are fine. Always frightens me as I have three Spruce trees around 60-70 ft tall. It was packing strong gusts still. Nothing compared to what they got down south of course.


I was in South Carolina, several years ago when hurricane Hughes was hanging around. They wanted us to move to a hotel across the street away from the beach, they were evacuating people to schools, I just wanted to leave and the following morning we did. It was raining. Traffic was endless and I was quite frightened as there were tornado warnings also.
I certainly didn't want to take refuge in a school.

Anyway, we went to Virginia beach and stayed overnight and left for farther north again. In N.J. found a motel for 2 nights, weather was nice, hot, and I had a migraine. We had to leave because the Volunteer Firemen were having their N.J. reunion. They booked all the motels but the owner said he could find us another one. I was fed up of moving, so we came home.
The following year the Motel on the beach in S.C. that we stayed in was a parking lot. The motel had been destoyed by the surge and hurricane. It was a nice little place too.

I feel sorry for the people along the gulf coast, especially the ones in New Orleans, It must be terrible under the conditions they are expected to live. I can't imagine having to live that way in a stadium. And yet they seem to be the lucky ones compared to the ones still in the Convention Center. The poor souls, I hope that people will open their wallets and send money to the Red Cross or Salvation Army.

Also, Rice is a good food! :)
I ate enough rice pudding as a child and it didn't do me any harm. Rice, eggs, raisins and milk and little sugar of course. When served, topped with maple syrup and cream........yummy. I'll be glad when it's cool enough to bake one. I don't imagine they will serve rice pudding to the thousands of survivors, but if that's what they have, it makes a good meal.

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Postby Lorraine » Sat 03 Sep, 2005 12:15 am

Antony wrote:
Don_HH2K wrote:Yet more that I don't understand about our own government . . .

Ronnie outlined some plans to me last night in which either the government or the Red Cross or somebody could supply the victims with food and drinking water. They could bring in water purifiers that would filter and clean the water of salt, bacteria, and other things that people wouldn't want to be drinking,
I simply don't think you want to hear things like, particularly if you are American... "one of the world's most technology advanced countries is providing its citizens purified sewage water for drinking."



Antony what do you think people in Canada and Northeastern U.S. are drinking?
From our faucets we receive water that has been purified from the St. Lawrence River.

People on the border of Lake Erie are probably drinking water from there, purified of course.

As a child, I remember an Aqueduct from the St. Lawrence river which ran to the Reservoir to purify the water. No one was allowed to go in the Aqueduct which BTW, was several miles long. In the spring, I saw a few dead bodies pulled out of it as a child, people fell through the ice or whatever happened to cause their demise.
We went to outdoor movies which were free and sometimes it was very hot coming home, and we would swim across the aqueduct or along it at nighttime.
Had to watch for the police tho'.
I told you we were experts with water :)
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Postby Antony » Sat 03 Sep, 2005 1:02 am

Lorraine wrote:Antony what do you think people in Canada and Northeastern U.S. are drinking?
From our faucets we receive water that has been purified from the St. Lawrence River.

People on the border of Lake Erie are probably drinking water from there, purified of course.
With all due respect, you simply can't purify those flooding water containing with industry waste, sewage, oil and rubbish efficiently enough.
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Postby Antony » Sat 03 Sep, 2005 3:55 am

The Hurricane Katrina news lasted for more than 20 minutes in the 30 minutes news tonight here. The situation is not looking good.

The problem... the breaking of levees was not predicted, and a huge number of people refuse to evacuate. There were some who were unable and/or did not have any means to evacuate. Some of them had to loot shops for food. As well as a number of those not looting for food, but beers, jeans, sports shoes.

The sad news was not just the buildings being destroyed, but also those who are dying. Poverty and skin colour did play a key issue in New Orleans's disasters.

SillyDog701 wishes those who evacuated from their homes can be somewhere safe, and minimum damage to their homes. Of course, SillyDog701 cares about a good friend, Mr Jay Garcia. The last news we heard was that he absconded safely to Long View, Texas.
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Postby Ron Williams » Sat 03 Sep, 2005 11:48 am

Antony wrote:
Lorraine wrote:Antony what do you think people in Canada and Northeastern U.S. are drinking?
From our faucets we receive water that has been purified from the St. Lawrence River.

People on the border of Lake Erie are probably drinking water from there, purified of course.
With all due respect, you simply can't purify those flooding water containing with industry waste, sewage, oil and rubbish efficiently enough.


Where I live, there are areas where the water is so dirty that you can not swim in it because you would get sick. The city pumps water from the river. If they did not, there would not be enough water to sustain the city. The aquifer is too small. They purify the water in small buildings too, maybe the size of a normal living room.
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Postby Ron Williams » Sat 03 Sep, 2005 12:05 pm

Antony wrote:the breaking of levees was not predicted


The problem with the levees was predicted in 2004. I cant find a link for this, but its on Fox News quite a bit. When it was predicted, it was heralded as "the dooms day situation for new orleans".
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Postby Fulvio » Sat 03 Sep, 2005 1:47 pm

The New Orleans newspaper had a frightening scenario in 2002
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Postby Andrew T. » Sat 03 Sep, 2005 3:19 pm

Shouldn't I rename this thread "Hurricane Katrina?" I don't think it seems right to imply a focus on a single person when so many people have been affected by this devastating event.
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Postby Antony » Sat 03 Sep, 2005 8:18 pm

Andrew T. wrote:Shouldn't I rename this thread "Hurricane Katrina?" I don't think it seems right to imply a focus on a single person when so many people have been affected by this devastating event.
Good idea. That particular person has deserted his house and absconded to a safe location.
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Postby Lorraine » Sat 03 Sep, 2005 11:17 pm

Antony wrote:
Andrew T. wrote:Shouldn't I rename this thread "Hurricane Katrina?" I don't think it seems right to imply a focus on a single person when so many people have been affected by this devastating event.
Good idea. That particular person has deserted his house and absconded to a safe location.


Antony, if Jay Garcia left his house with his family it was the wise thing to do. What did you want him to do, stick his finger in the levee and stop the ocean from entering New Orleans? Do you think Jay is Hans Brinker?
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Postby Lorraine » Sat 03 Sep, 2005 11:26 pm

Ron Williams wrote:
Antony wrote:the breaking of levees was not predicted


The problem with the levees was predicted in 2004. I cant find a link for this, but its on Fox News quite a bit. When it was predicted, it was heralded as "the dooms day situation for new orleans".


Bill Walsh, Editorial in the Times-Picuyane,
see; http://www.nola.com/
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Postby Lorraine » Sat 03 Sep, 2005 11:56 pm

Antony wrote:
Lorraine wrote:Antony what do you think people in Canada and Northeastern U.S. are drinking?
From our faucets we receive water that has been purified from the St. Lawrence River.

People on the border of Lake Erie are probably drinking water from there, purified of course.
With all due respect, you simply can't purify those flooding water containing with industry waste, sewage, oil and rubbish efficiently enough.


Antony:
I don't think they drink Ocean water. They must have a Water Supply System for such a large and main port in the U.S.A. Perhaps they get it from the lake Pontcharmain, I think it's called. I don't know. But water, even Sea water can be purified for drinking,.
The St. Lawrence River was polluted many times when I was a child due to Industrial pollution. We were unable to swim in it those summers, not every summer, just sometimes for a few weeks. The St. Lawrence gets all the sewerage from Montreal and many other large cities. Yes, admittedly today they do filter the sewerage in some cities or towns, not all, before it enters the St. Lawrence. At the beginning of this summer they were able to swim in the river in some places. Lake Erie is disgusting, although they are trying to clean it up. The Seaway is in the St. Lawrence, imagine the freighters that use it? Going right up to the Great Lakes.
There are many Chemical plants, there are all kinds of factories around the river, even a Nuclear Energy Facility which isn't used, but full of plutonium.
But people drink the water just the same.
Canada sent some experts down to New Orleans, 37 from Canada, including divers to work on the levees and other things. Several ships of supplies too.
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Postby Fulvio » Sun 04 Sep, 2005 12:25 am

Yes, Lorraine, about the scenario in 2002. I think that you have just about the same link as mine.
New Orleans is "dead" as far as I am concerned.
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Postby Antony » Sun 04 Sep, 2005 9:16 am

Lorraine wrote:
Antony wrote:
Andrew T. wrote:Shouldn't I rename this thread "Hurricane Katrina?" I don't think it seems right to imply a focus on a single person when so many people have been affected by this devastating event.
Good idea. That particular person has deserted his house and absconded to a safe location.


Antony, if Jay Garcia left his house with his family it was the wise thing to do. What did you want him to do, stick his finger in the levee and stop the ocean from entering New Orleans? Do you think Jay is Hans Brinker?
-Lorraine
Well, I was merely reporting that Mr. Jay Garcia abandoned his house and absconded to Long View, Texas safely. This thread was originally titled "SillyDog701 cares about Jay Garcia's safety."
SillyDog701 cares about Mr. Jay Garcia, and it is my great honour to report his safety to all SillyDog701 members.

Background on Jay Garcia and SillyDog701:
Mr. Jay Garcia conducted condemnable and unethical [sdt=7565]cybersquatting attacks[/sdt] on SillyDog701.
SillyDog701 and Antony hold no grudges.
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