SillyDog701

[Pu7o]

You ought to try being a computer technician, and work on the bleedin' things for the poor saps that've bought
them! You'd soon change your tune about Dell systems, and realise what a complete nightmare they can be!

Have you ever tried to open a Mac Mini or an iMac and replace *anything*?

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[Don_HH2K]

The disadvantage of using nonstandard parts is that a manufacturer can charge, for the most part, whatever price they want. Would you pay $475 for a 60GB hard drive, $124 for a wireless LAN card, $400 for a 1.8GHz processor, $650 for a screen, or nearly $1000 for 1GB of memory? (Unfortunately, that's the product parts page for my notebook.)

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[DJGM]

You ought to try being a computer technician, and work on the bleedin' things for the
poor saps that've bought them! You'd soon change your tune about Dell systems,
and realise what a complete nightmare they can be!

Have you ever tried to open a Mac Mini or an iMac and replace *anything*?

This is all about proprietary components in PC's, not in Apple Macs, which are an entirely different matter.
altogether. Specifically, it's about Dell, the world's biggest maker of desktop and tower PC's being the
worst offender for building their systems with non-standard components and configurations.

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[Antony]

Have you ever tried to open a Mac Mini or an iMac and replace *anything*?

You should've read Do-It-Yourself Parts & Service and the manual (both printed and electronic versions) that came with your Mac first.
For models not listed there, they are not designed as self-servicable.

You can ask Apple Authorised Service Providers to replace or upgrade any components inside your Mac (those not designed to be self-servicable). Further, you do not need to buy memory or harddisk from Apple. You can use memory / harddisk that has the same specification.

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[Tidus]

Out of all the main PC makers, Dell is by far THE worst offender for using non-standard components.

I agree with Greg, i was the one who taught him about Dell's true nonstandard ways, i've worked with the b*st*rds for a while now, even before September 1998, when they were a good standard company!

They have Intel custom make boards for them, which includes the non standard wiring in the ATX 20 pin connector, the connector LOOKS exactly the same, but the wiring isn't. It also isn't just the build quality, it's the customer support, which is non-existant.

BUT, if you don't agree, i'm not going to fight, everyone's entitled to an opinion, and i respect that!

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[Tidus]

The disadvantage of using nonstandard parts is that a manufacturer can charge, for the most part, whatever price they want. Would you pay $475 for a 60GB hard drive, $124 for a wireless LAN card, $400 for a 1.8GHz processor, $650 for a screen, or nearly $1000 for 1GB of memory? (Unfortunately, that's the product parts page for my notebook.)

So true, my new friend, so true!

I have been charged through the nose for parts for the 3 Dell Poweredge SC142s servers my wife and i run at home, that cost us $6,873 each!

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[Tidus]

I used to work for Dell, when i was on my work experience back at school, i know exactly what they're like!

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