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Postby Antony » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 3:18 pm

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Apple introduces Apple TV today at Macworld San Francisco 2007. The product was code named “iTV" and first demonstrated during WWDC 2006.

Apple TV allows users to watch movies in high-definition from iTunes wirelessly transmitted to Apple TV, then connected to users' television.


Apple TV works with widescreen, enhanced-definition or high-definition TVs capable of 1080i, 720p, 576p, or 480p resolutions, and has following ports and interfaces: HDMI (video and audio), component video, optical audio, analogue RCA stereo, 10/100BASE-T Ethernet, USB 2.0, 802.11n wireless networking, built-in IR receiver.

Apple TV works for both Mac and PC.
System requirement:
iTunes 7.1
Mac OS X v10.3.9 or later
Windows XP Home/Professional (SP2)
AirPort Extreme, Wi-Fi 802.11b, 802.11g, or 802.11n wireless network (wireless video streaming requires 802.11g or 802.11n), or 10/100BASE-T Ethernet network

For more information, please see Apple TV web page.
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Postby DJGM » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 3:58 pm

Since all the digital video I have is in WMV, RM, MPEG and DivX formats, this is one Apple gizmo that I won't want.
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Postby Antony » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 4:14 pm

Time to get H.264 videos, or convert to H.264, if I were you.
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Postby Don_HH2K » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 4:15 pm

DJGM wrote:Since all the digital video I have is in WMV, RM, MPEG and DivX formats, this is one Apple gizmo that I won't want.


Same here, and on top of that I don't have an HDTV to run the box on.
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Postby DJGM » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 5:17 pm

Antony wrote:Time to get H.264 videos, or convert to H.264, if I were you.


Nah, I'm happy with the video formats that I use now. Heck, I only just recently managed to able to play DivX videos!

And before you profess the wonders of HD, I don't have any HD ready TV equipment, nor can I afford such luxuries.
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Postby Antony » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 5:23 pm

Don_HH2K wrote:Same here, and on top of that I don't have an HDTV to run the box on.


DJGM wrote:And before you profess the wonders of HD, I don't have any HD ready TV equipment, nor can I afford such luxuries.


My television is still 4:3, and it's still CRT. Antony is poor.

Apple TV can be used on regular TV.
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Postby DJGM » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 6:03 pm

H.264 is a HD video format, is it not? As for my main TV, it's a nearly 7 year old Thomson 24" w/s CRT model.
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Postby Antony » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 6:08 pm

DJGM wrote:H.264 is a HD video format, is it not?
You don't have to encode into High-Definition. High-Definition takes quite a bit of file space and computation power.

DJGM wrote:As for my main TV, it's a nearly 7 year old Thomson 24" w/s CRT model.
My Philips is 4 by 3, not wide screen format, and it's only 20" or 21".
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Postby Don_HH2K » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 7:27 pm

Antony wrote:Apple TV can be used on regular TV.


Actually, it can't. You need at least a 480p/576p-capable EDTV set, depending on your location. Of course, you'd be best off with a true HD set rather than just an ED set. According to Apple's product page, the Apple TV doesn't support 480/576i, which means that you can't hook up the Apple TV receiver to a standard-def TV.

DJGM wrote:H.264 is a HD video format, is it not?


Actually, HD is a resolution, not a video format. It's commonly either 1280x720 or 1920x1080. H.264 is one common compressor for HD content.

Antony wrote:High-Definition takes quite a bit of file space and computation power.


This is why PCs ship with gigantic hard drives nowadays. Even I have videos in 720p, and I don't even have a widescreen display.
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Postby DJGM » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 7:45 pm

Basically, not only does Apple TV not support the video formats I regularly use, I would also have to spend several
hundred UK£ (that I do not have) on purchasing a HD ready TV set. So, I definitely won't be buying Apple TV.


(At least until I'm as rich as Antony is anyway!)
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Postby Antony » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 7:53 pm

Don_HH2K wrote:
Antony wrote:Apple TV can be used on regular TV.


Actually, it can't. You need at least a 480p/576p-capable EDTV set, depending on your location. Of course, you'd be best off with a true HD set rather than just an ED set. According to Apple's product page, the Apple TV doesn't support 480/576i, which means that you can't hook up the Apple TV receiver to a standard-def TV.


From http://www.apple.com/appletv/connect.html ,
Apple TV works with widescreen, enhanced-definition or high-definition TVs capable of 1080i, 720p, 576p, or 480p resolutions, including popular models from these manufacturers.
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Postby Antony » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 7:55 pm

okay, you are correct.

But all TVs nowadays (from department stores) are all widescreen and high resolution.
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Postby Don_HH2K » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 8:04 pm

DJGM wrote:Basically, not only does Apple TV not support the video formats I regularly use, I would also have to spend several
hundred UK£ (that I do not have) on purchasing a HD ready TV set. So, I definitely won't be buying Apple TV.


You can do ED the cheap-b*st*rd's way and use a CRT monitor (with a VGA connector, not a DVI connector) and a colorspace converter. And if your monitor supports higher resolutions like 1280x1024, you can also get a 720p signal to it with the black bars on the top and bottom. :wink:
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Postby Don_HH2K » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 8:05 pm

Antony wrote:But all TVs nowadays (from department stores) are all widescreen and high resolution.


Are you kidding? Even the most expensive places still carry 480i CRTs around here.
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Postby DJGM » Tue 09 Jan, 2007 8:14 pm

Don_HH2K wrote:
Antony wrote:But all TVs nowadays (from department stores) are all widescreen and high resolution.


Are you kidding? Even the most expensive places still carry 480i CRTs around here.


One of the UK biggest department stores, John Lewis, still sells 4:3 SD format TV's. Even in flat panel LCD models!

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