MSF files and compacting

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MSF files and compacting

Postby gaia1muse » Fri 11 Nov, 2005 8:40 pm

What is an msf file? I have been working with a friend on their overloaded email box and have paired down their inbox to about 75 emails that they want to have on hand. But now they say that when they open new emails -- they are sometimes blank.

I see from other posts that the solution seems to be to delete the MSF file and let it rebuild.

I would like to make sure that he will not lose any of the emails in his inbox by doing this...

And would also like to know what the msf file is...thank you.

Also, should I back up his files before I compact? Does that function run any danger of losing mail?
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Postby Fulvio » Fri 11 Nov, 2005 10:05 pm

Each mail account folder has pairs of files, like the Inbox and and Inbox.msf, Sent and sent.msf. The files without the .msf extention, i.e. Inbox or Sent contain the e-mails, and should not be deleted.
Files like Inbox.msf and sent.msf can be deleted from the hard drive profile location, and your program closed. On reopening the program the .msf or "header" files are rebuilt on the basis of the file with no extention. sometimes the .msf become corrupted, and should be deleted. So, obviously, no mail is lost, if only the header files are deleted. E-mails can be blank, and, they are, usually, spam. That should be given away by the Subject and sender, although at times even the subject is blank. It is not common, but they come in bunches. Best way to verify what they are like is to highlight that message, select View|Message source. That will give you e-mail address, and other useful information. I would say, delete the .msf files whenever in doubt, but first Compact the folders.
When an e-mail is deleted is not completely removed from the Inbox. Compacting will remove those already deleted e-mails. I do that all the time, and more than once a day, and my mail has been ok. However, if there had not been any compacting, there may be long delay. In general, not compacting is pretty deadly. I suppose that you could back up the files, but if he has a lot of floating no good mail, you would just do that, back up garbage.
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Postby Ramona » Fri 11 Nov, 2005 10:07 pm

Niki,

The MSF files are summary files created by the Mail component. When loading the mail, these files give Netscape/Mozilla/Thunderbird the header information. Your actual messages (including all headers) are stored in the file with no extension (unix format). These files can be safely deleted, and are regenerated on restart of the Browser. They frequently become corrupt, and why it is the first suggested workaround when a Mail problem exists.

Some of the first indications of trouble are:
- Mail or news headers are downloaded but nothing is viewable
- Lost count of how many news/mail messages are unread
- Other strange phenomena

These files are especially prone to damage if you are running Quick Launch.

You should backup the Mail on a frequent basis, especially in view of the fact that your friend has over a thousand messages. He should do it daily.

Before compacting? Not necessary, as compacting actually deletes the messages you have already deleted from the Trash folder. Those deleted messages on your HDD remain, even though you have deleted them from the Trash folder. Keep in mind, however, that once you compact the folders, then they are gone from the HDD.
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Postby gaia1muse » Fri 11 Nov, 2005 11:00 pm

So correct me if I'm wrong but I am hearing that emptied/noncompacted trash still resides on the harddrive. And hopefully using the text editor to read the trash file will restore lost emails. Question... would like to confirm that the trash deletions all exist within the netscape profile folder? ( If that is the case, I'll just copy his folder onto my portable hard drive and work on this at home....)
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Postby Fulvio » Sat 12 Nov, 2005 11:52 am

I gave this reply at another post. It is possible to restore some delete mail. Or, you can go fishing opening the Inbox with Wordpad. You should be able to read the .txt part of the message. But, if the Trash is emptied, you will have to look into the Inbox, to which the deleted mail is still attach. Thus, compacting is vital. Otherwise your hard drive will still have, in the background, your deleted mail.
The above link should answer your question.
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Postby gaia1muse » Sat 12 Nov, 2005 12:32 pm

Yes, I remember that post, but at the time I wasn't sure whether you were (1) specifically referring to or (2) including or (3) not including emptied trash -- Thought you might be referring to deletions from other files that aren't sent to trash. So thanks for the clarification.
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