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Singapore's Execution of an Aussie trafficker

Postby xtremeleafan » Sat 03 Dec, 2005 11:10 pm

Singapore execution prompts mixed emotions

Singapore has some of the strictest drug trafficking laws in the world
The case of convicted Australian drug smuggler Nguyen Tuong Van, hanged in Singapore on Friday, has prompted a mix of outrage, sadness and soul-searching in newspapers in Australia and New Zealand.


Opposition to the death penalty and horror at the method of his execution is combined with criticism of government policy in both Singapore and Australia and warnings about the dangers of drugs.


In Singapore, commentators defend their government's stance and issue a stark warning to other drug smugglers.



EDITORIAL IN AUSTRALIA'S THE SYDNEY MORNING HERALD


Nguyen Tuong Van is no martyr. He was a convicted drug smuggler. But the dignity, courage and generosity with which he faced his execution became, in itself, a compelling argument against a mandatory penalty of death.




PETER HARTCHER IN THE SYDNEY MORNING HERALD


Australia mourns Nguyen Tuong Van... recoiling from the chilling spectacle of a state, in all its power and with an agonisingly deliberate slowness, strangling life from a single young civilian.




EDITORIAL IN THE AUSTRALIAN


The death penalty is wrong - no ifs, no buts... Today, with the outrageous exception of the US, nations where political power depends on the electoral assent of the governed are likely to have abandoned capital punishment.




EDITORIAL IN AUSTRALIA'S HERALD SUN


Life is too precious to be taken needlessly, on the gallows, a throwback to a less civilised past that degrades all involved. This grotesque, anachronistic method is consistent in suiting the authoritarian mindset that Singapore's modern rulers are yet to break free of. As a deterrent, it is a failure.




EDITORIAL IN NEW ZEALAND'S THE PRESS


The Singapore government has been shown to be brutal, pitiless and inhumane... This case has been made particularly monstrous by the appearance in newspapers of the hangman himself 'talking merrily'... Even without these hideous elements the execution would be repugnant; with them it becomes unspeakable.




CLIVE KESSLER IN THE SYDNEY MORNING HERALD


For many Australians, the core issue emotionally, no less than their opposition to the idea of recourse to state-sanctioned killing... is their abhorrence of this gruesome method of execution.




EDITORIAL IN AUSTRALIA'S THE AGE


Australia has been inconsistent. In cases such as those of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussain and the Bali bombers, the prospect of execution has even met with support... Even as Singapore stands condemned, Australians need to recognise that we are less clear in our own hearts and minds about this issue than we should be.




MARK BAKER IN THE AGE


Nguyen's execution was as much a political act as the outcome of a warped legal process - an act sanctioned by a stubborn, hard-hearted oligarchy and probably sealed by the conduct of our own leaders.




EDITORIAL IN THE SYDNEY MORNING HERALD


The real culprit is drugs. Drugs destroy lives, and drug crimes evoke deep emotions, including support for capital punishment.




EDITORIAL IN THE AUSTRALIAN


If this whole appalling mess has a single worthwhile outcome, it will be to discourage any other Australians from attempting to use or smuggle illicit drugs in Asia.




EDITORIAL IN SINGAPORE'S THE STRAITS TIMES


It is easy to be sanctimonious about the savagery of hanging but there are grim realities about drug trafficking and addiction that are not so easily ignored... Neither the Nguyen affair nor the other high-profile drug cases should go unnoticed in Australia. Instead of burning with anger, however, what should sink in their minds is that the hangman waits for those who smuggle drugs in South-east Asia.




LUO PEIYU IN SINGAPORE'S LIANHE ZAOBAO


Singapore has the right to retain the death penalty... The Singaporean government has gone through careful consideration in order to safeguard the rule of law and people's interests. This is the correct procedure, and other people should not be allowed to interfere.




HUANG JIA HUA IN LIANHE ZAOBAO


The so-called human rights activists who are running around asking for mercy for Nguyen Tuong Van seem to regard drug dealers as heroes, victims and innocent people. Brandishing the human rights flag, they are attempting to disturb the fairness of our country's judiciary, and to sedulously discredit the clean reputation of our country.



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Postby Antony » Tue 06 Dec, 2005 10:30 am

It was the headline last few days in Australia. It is clearly that all major Australian media failed to provide a fair view on this situation. All major media did report that Mr Van Tuong Nguyen was a condemned man, however, they only lightly mentioned such fact. They all focused on the opposition to the death penalty and the gallows method.

Australian citizens or American citizens are not born with death-free card for conducting crimes overseas.

Sir William Wallace was strangled by hanging, but released near death, emasculated, drawn and quartered, and beheaded. (reference)

I make no comments on the penalty of drug smuggling or the method of punishment. That is to say... Mr Nguyen should be punished for the crime he conducted.
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Postby Antony » Tue 06 Dec, 2005 6:26 pm

Further, there are some groups desperately need news coverage, there are some MPs finding their names not being heard by public.

What was the similar case? [sdt=8598]Terri Schiavo[/sdt].

Van Tuong Nguyen was a trafficker.
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Postby Mandrake » Tue 06 Dec, 2005 7:11 pm

Van Tuong Nguyen broke the law in Singapore. Being in possession of that much heroin is a very serious crime anywhere in the world. He just got unlucky, and was caught in Singapore, which has the strictest drug related laws in the world. He commited a serious crime in Singapore, and was punished according to Singaporean law.
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Postby Ron Williams » Wed 07 Dec, 2005 4:54 am

My question is, what type of drug was he smuggling? If it was something such as marijuana, I see no merit in his hanging, but I think there should have been serious jail time. The reason I consider marijuana different from drugs like cocaine is because cocaine has addictive qualities unlike marijuana that is clean (not laced with anything).

I say, it's life. If he did not take the drugs into the country to try and make a quick dollar, then he would still be alive. It's not for us to rule over what happens in those countries.

Compare the crime rate in singapore to the crime rate in some of the leading countries of the world (USA, UK, France, Germany, Australia, etc.). If singapores is less, then they must be doing something right.
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Postby Antony » Wed 07 Dec, 2005 6:45 am

My question is, what type of drug was he smuggling? If it was something such as marijuana,
Heroin, nearly 400 grams.

Marijuana is also an illegal substance in Australia.
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Postby Ron Williams » Wed 07 Dec, 2005 2:40 pm

Antony wrote:
My question is, what type of drug was he smuggling? If it was something such as marijuana,
Heroin, nearly 400 grams.

Marijuana is also an illegal substance in Australia.


Marijuana is also illegal in the US.

As for the heroin, he deserved the receive what singapores laws allow for the crime, which in this case was execution.
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Postby xtremeleafan » Wed 07 Dec, 2005 8:06 pm

Although Singapore has 7 times the execution rate of the United States it obviously does not act as a deterrent The following article is enlightening in itself.

http://www.onlinecatholics.com.au/issue81/news1.php

It's clear they are not doing it right and as the above article pleads The mandatory death sentence for trafficking in drugs lessens the capacity of the court to assess the reality of the situation, which can vary enormously from situation to situation.â€
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