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Netscape is good but does not work all the time

Postby monish » Sat 25 Feb, 2006 3:06 pm

This looks like a great site to find answers to your questions. I use netscape because for some reason my computer is much safer when I use netscape. I think one reason is that the spy programs or adware software or the programs that hijack your computer are mostly written to work with IE rather than netscape. They cannot get their programs installed on the user's computer if they are using netscape. I have actually tried that with two different computers one using netscape and the other IE and looked at my start up to see the damage. In all cases the programs were able to install themself only if I was using IE. The other thing that is good about netscape is the personal toolbar at the top which seems to be a favorite with the kids.
I have transferred all my bookmarks to the personal toolbar which is very easy to click and use. I do not know how to do this in IE. Maybe there is a way. Now what is not good about netscape is that in some cases it does not work and I have to use IE. For example with ebay sometimes the back button becomes disabled or sometimes I cannot delete my yahoo email. Some of the things I have never experienced with IE
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Postby Al » Sat 25 Feb, 2006 4:49 pm

As for the back button problem...
Go to Tools>Options>Privacy>History.
You have history set at 0 days. Set it to at least 1 day.
I'm sure that Yahoo! Mail uses JavaScript so check if it's on.
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Postby Fulvio » Sat 25 Feb, 2006 5:05 pm

Hi! I don't know about any great security with NS8.x over IE, because a lot of the problem start in Mail, which is not in either NS8.x nor IE. Netscape8.x may be safer when browsing, but it has the capability of being used either as Mozilla Firefox, or IE. And, since websites are designed for any user, and IE, is by far, the dominant browser, websites are going to work better with IE, although a good website designer will test the site with alternate browsers.
This is an old story, begun, first when Netscape6 appeared, and many sites were not prepared for it. Inconsiderate website designer has continued the practive, even to this day.
I don't know about eBay, which I would never use, because a lot of crooks take advantage of users, because it is so big, like IE. I have never been an eBay subscriber, nor user, but, for a time I was getting all sort of mail which indicated that someone had lifted one of my e-mail addresses, and used improperly.
I have never had problems with Yahoo mail, although Yahoo is, as I, once said, more pro-Microsoft than Microsoft.
I see that you are using Netscape8.0.4. Keep in mind that s new version, which contains AntiSpyware is already out. I, personally, do not like NS8.1, but that's an entirely different story.
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Safety in Netscape

Postby richard mitnick » Sun 26 Feb, 2006 2:55 pm

monish-

Netscape 8, which I was using, is just a combination of I.E. 6 and some iteration of Firefox. You choose which you want to use in the individual site security for each site.

In fact, I think Netscape installs with I.E as the default engine, and one needs to switch any site to FF.

If your computer security, anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-adware stuff is kept up to date, and if you have a decent hardware firewall (routers or hubs provide this) and/or software firewall ( e.g., ZoneAlarm) I.E. 6.0 SP2 is absolutley as safe as Firefox.

But, if the idea of I.E. bothers you, even a little, the get either Firefox or the Seamonkey browser, and get the IETab extension for those must needs I.E. moments. I prefer Seamonkey because I can get it to save all of my user ids and passwords, which FF will not do for me (MyYahoo). That was one of the nice things in Netscape.

In either case, you are getting the best of what Netscape offers, but in a lighter faster browser. There is nothing wrong with Netscape, except that it is too ponderous. Also, one needs to be very knowledgeable about what not to allow in site security. So, It is a bit more technical than Seamonkey or Firefox.

I have set Seamonkey as my default.
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Postby monish » Sun 26 Feb, 2006 3:35 pm

Al the history is set to 30 days. I never changed that. Now the interesting thing is even here when I tried to post a reply (the message I am typing) using netscape I clicked on the reply and I was getting the login screen. After going through this cycle of loging in and clicking on the reply button three times I finally gave up and used IE and I was able to post a reply. This does not happen with netscape all the time but it happens. The other site that I have found netscape acts weird sometimes is yahoo music and I immediately switch to IE and it works fine. As for Firefox I have tried it and I think I could not use the personal toolbar as I could with netscape. Can you have your bookmarks at the top of your page as you can do in netscape? In fact do you know if it is possible to have this feature(personal toolbar) of netscape in IE. Again I am using netscape because it seems it keeps all the viscious programs off my computer or maybe those programs cannot install themselves because there are so many bugs in netscape. I do not know whom to give the credit to.
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Postby Fulvio » Sun 26 Feb, 2006 7:18 pm

Now the interesting thing is even here when I tried to post a reply (the message I am typing) using netscape I clicked on the reply and I was getting the login screen. After going through this cycle of loging in and clicking on the reply button three times I finally gave up and used IE .

If I select to save the information I never had a problem.
If you don't pay close attention at the installation, NS8.x will open with IE, preferentially, but all I need to do is to uncheck that box. I have uninstalled and reinstalled NS8.1, and it has not fooled me, yet.
The other site that I have found netscape acts weird sometimes is yahoo music and I immediately switch to IE and it works fine.

That's not netscape's fault, but rather Yahoo music, which not only insists in using Internet Explorer, but also has started to accept the obsolete Netscape
7.1, only a short time ago, and none of the more recent programs. It uses a "sniffer" which rejects any recent programs. You can't win with them.

As for Firefox I have tried it and I think I could not use the personal toolbar as I could with netscape. Can you have your bookmarks at the top of your page as you can do in netscape? In fact do you know if it is possible to have this feature(personal toolbar) of netscape in IE.

I can use the personal toolbar as well, or better, in Firefox than NS8.1.
Reason is that 8.1 has so much extra junk in the Personal Toolbar, that I can have fewer folders. No, you can't add the PTF to IE. It is totally different in design.
I am using netscape because it seems it keeps all the viscious programs off my computer or maybe those programs cannot install themselves because there are so many bugs in netscape. I do not know whom to give the credit to.

Think that there are about nine times more IE users that Netscape+other programs out there. Some of the "baddies" target IE, exclusively because it can cause more damage. There may be some other factors, but if you want to give credit to anyone, you, really can't.
If your Windows is up to date, you will be relatively safe with anything. If your security updates plus antivirus plus laxitude, in general, are down, you can count on problems.
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