SillyDog701

by **monish** » Mon 27 Mar, 2006 3:09 pm

After installing the new version of netscape(8.1) the drag and drop icon does not work any more. This feature allows you to drag an icon from the address bar and drop it on the personal address bar. But this feature was blocked after installing the new version. Any idea?

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by **Fulvio** » Mon 27 Mar, 2006 3:47 pm

It is not quite correct. You can drag and drop, at the about the same speed as dragging and dropping a bookmark in Bookmarks|Manage bookmarks, which is deathly slow. It has taken me 15-20 sec, and other people reported over one minute. Another thing about drag/drop to the Personal toolbar is that you cannot drop where you want,but, rather to the far right. Since my Personal Toolbar is full, I would not be able to see a new bookmark, unless I click on the >> at the far right.
I sent a feedback to the development group about the slowness. Please, let us know if you , really, cannot drag and drop, or you did not realize the overall failure.

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by **monish** » Mon 27 Mar, 2006 4:50 pm

I cannot drag and drop at all. I remember I had this problem with previous installation too. But one day it started working. I do not understand the delay you mentioned. I tried to drag and drop. It showed me a forbidden sign (you know the one with a circle and a diagonal line) I held it for one minute and then let go of it to no avail. Adding these links to the top of the browser is very convenient especially for kids. When I have too many then I just open a folder and put different links in differet catagory folder. It is still better than going to the bookmarks.

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by **TomDog** » Mon 27 Mar, 2006 6:35 pm

OK, I thought it was just me -- I was about to post my own question about the extreme sluggishness of dragging bookmarks around in the Manager. I'm assuming there is no "fix" yet, but is this really a problem everyone has using 8.1?

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by **Fulvio** » Mon 27 Mar, 2006 7:46 pm

Yes, it is a common problem, and there no temporary fix.

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by **monish** » Tue 28 Mar, 2006 2:39 pm

Well here is what happened and the resolution. After installing netscape I always deleted everything at the top of my browser(on the Personal toolbar).
That stopped me from being able to drag and drop from address bar. You can delete everything except for one thing and that is "Add bookmark" option. So if you have already deleted that just go to customize and check the option that says reset the defaults. Now you are able to drag and drop.

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by **Fulvio** » Tue 28 Mar, 2006 3:00 pm

It makes sense for what you are doing, but ithe sluggishness does not make sense, if I am in Manage Bookmarks. I can delete bookmarks, but moving them around is such a chore that I don't do it. I am not sure that understand what you doing. But, having uninstalled and reinstalled NS8.1 seven times, with three new profiles created for them, I should have hit a time when I could do anything without waiting forever. I don't have room for new bookmarks on my Personal Toolbar, anyway, for addition of any new one.
My gripe about NS8.1, and, any previous Netscape is to fill the Personal Toolbar with all sort of junk. Personal means "mine" to me.

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by **monish** » Wed 29 Mar, 2006 12:42 pm

What I did to make it right does not mean I did something wrong before. nestcape is definitely behaving sluggishly in this regard. As regard with the space available on the toolbar What I do is I create forlders on the personal toolbar and then drag the links onto those folder. I have created about 10 forlders pertaining to different kinds of links. That way you will not be short of space any more. To make it simple I just right click on the personal toolbar and create a folder.

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by **Fulvio** » Wed 29 Mar, 2006 3:11 pm

My personal toolbar has nothing but folders. And, I managed to have 13 folders, using the Aluminum Alloy Theme, and getting rid of the weather, plus contracting the names of the folders to fit more of them. I don't disagree with anything you said. NS8.1 is sluggish in this respect.

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by **NOOK** » Fri 21 Apr, 2006 8:08 am

I have sent Netscape many messages, they must be aware of this failure... I just don't understand why they would release this version when they know bookmark managment is one of the features we all use religiously!

WAKE UP NETSCAPE!

:evil:

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by **Fulvio** » Fri 21 Apr, 2006 10:53 am

I must say that, rarely, if ever you get an acknowlegment to feedback. I have sent many, and, never received any reply, nor expected it.
Whoever is working on the program is aware of many bugs, although no one knows when, or even if, there will be a new version.
So, if you think that it is a nightmare, wake up and use Firefox, or anything but Netscape8.1. Also, this newsgroup has no direct contact with AOL, but, if you post at the Netscape Browser newsgroup someone will take note. Just list your problem. You will need to log in with a Netscape, Aim.com, or AOL username.

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by **NOOK** » Fri 21 Apr, 2006 11:27 am

Fulvio wrote:I must say that, rarely, if ever you get an acknowlegment to feedback. I have sent many, and, never received any reply, nor expected it.
Whoever is working on the program is aware of many bugs, although no one knows when, or even if, there will be a new version.
So, if you think that it is a nightmare, wake up and use Firefox, or anything but Netscape8.1. Also, this newsgroup has no direct contact with AOL, but, if you post at the Netscape Browser newsgroup someone will take note. Just list your problem. You will need to log in with a Netscape, Aim.com, or AOL username.

Fulvio,

I guess I hate to change because I've got a massive amount of bookmarks, in folders etc... do you know if I can transfer them over to firefox?

And does it have the muiltiple tab feature Nestcape has (so I can have many sites open at once?)

Thanks

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by **Fulvio** » Fri 21 Apr, 2006 1:15 pm

I don't know if there ia way to import/conevert all files. I heard of problem with the passwords, because NS8.1 uses a format all of its own.
There is no problem with the bookmarks.html which can be imported from the bookmarks|Tools|Import pointing to the correct file, if it is not imported automatically on set up, or you can do it manually, from the hard drive, replacing the original file which is given to you. Almost all my bookmarks are in folders, which are accessible from the Personal Toolbar.
As for the Tabs, I considered it to be the most obnoxious feature of NS8.1, because it was delivering a new Tab, without even opening it, at a drop of a hat., and there is less room for Tabs in NS8.1. Anyway too many tabs cause havoc to the memory usage. I am using a program with no tab, it uses 18MB.
I have seen NS8.1 exceeding 250MB, which is absurd, it slows down the poor thing. Yes, you can have Tabs in Firefox, but they are more controllable. I generally have 3-6 tabs at the startup, and, rarely, keep a new tab open, but it can be done.
And, Firefox is the origin of NS8.1 engine, except that 8.1 has not been updated. There is an extention for Firefox which allows you to use the IE engine, but specifically, and not to have a wholesale switch.
I will be happy to assist you, but I don't have all the answers for 8.1, since I never fully accepted.

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by **NOOK** » Fri 21 Apr, 2006 4:33 pm

Fulvio

I guess I need to install firefox & see for myself... is there anything I need to know before I do install it?

Thanks
Nook

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by **Fulvio** » Fri 21 Apr, 2006 7:29 pm

Nook,
if you never had before, just download it, and let it do its thing.
I, have in the past, copied the entire Plugins folder from a related program, and, paste it into the Firefox program, replacing the several .dll files.
this may be a bit reckless, and unnecessary, but I have had only one problem with the techniques, i.e. with the npmozax.dll file, the one which allows you to use the ActiveX for WMP. And, you can delete it.
Go easy with extentions, and Tabs. They will slow down the loading of the program. Just get used to it. Knowing NS8.1, it will be easier to set up, and use. It will have the minimum of stuff which is thought to be vital by Netscape. The profile for NS8.x, in WinXP is in: C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application Data\Netscape\NSB\Profiles, and that of a Firefox:C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles

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Cannot drag and drop the icon to the personal toolbar

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