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Importing a new profile into Thunderbird

Postby humpd » Mon 08 Jan, 2007 5:54 pm

I was wondering if this would work. If I uninstall Thunderbird (keeping the one profile that is in existance) and then re-install it, will I be able to import my wife's profile and will my old one show up automatically? I would think this would work. I would do this instead of deleting my profile and then using the import feature to get my wife's in and then recreating the same name of my original profile and hoping it brings with it all the saved mail, etc.
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Postby Fulvio » Mon 08 Jan, 2007 6:04 pm

There is no reason to mess with a new profile. The one thing which is misunderstood is that profiles and accounts are not quite the same thing. But you can, easily, set up your wife's account, and then copy her renamed Inbox and Sent files, wherever they may be. And, you can export her address book(s), and then import it(them).
In fact, that is what I did with mail in Seamonkey. I had not set up an account for my wife, and then I did, copy/pasting the renamed file which are her Archives.
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Postby humpd » Mon 15 Jan, 2007 7:12 pm

I thought I copied and pasted my wife's mail and address book from her SeaMonkey mail to Thunderbird but to no avail. I created a profile for my wife in Thunderbird and then thought I copied the important folders to the correct location in Thunderbird. I have since deleted my wife's profile in Thunderbird and await any more ideas. This should be simple, it seems, but I seem to be making it into something difficult.
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Postby Fulvio » Tue 16 Jan, 2007 10:59 am

Thunderbird works like the NS7.x, Mozilla, or Seamonkey mail. I had, originally, only one of my accounts, set up in TB. since then, I lost count of how many accounts I have set up, and copied and pasted into each account the renamed files. Of course, as you know you rename the old files so that the present ones are not overwritten.
It may be a bit tricky to place the old, renamed files in the correct folder, as TB, as all its predecessors creates folders with the POP account name with a number next to it. I may call my mail "Fulvio", but having Cox as ISP, TB will create a pop.central.cox.net folder, and for my wife a pop.central.cox-1.net folder. You can rename the folders in your HD, but then you must change the path in your Local Directory. It is best to create one account at a time, so that you don't confuse the folders. And, remember to do any copy/paste and whatever with your program closed, or else nothing new will be remain in the program.
As for the ABs you export them as .ldif files, to which you may want to give a name, and then import them from the address book. In fact, I just did that in a newly set up NS7.2, and imported my Family.ldif file into its address book. Now, my address book has beside the Personal and Collected ABs, also a Family AB.
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Postby humpd » Tue 16 Jan, 2007 4:27 pm

I really feel quite stupid here but I cannot get a copy and paste to work. I clearly doing something wrong. So, back to my original idea. If I uninstall TBird and then re-install it, will it keep MY current profile and then ask me if I want to import another profile (in this case my wife's) from SeaMonkey mail?
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Postby Fulvio » Tue 16 Jan, 2007 6:13 pm

Do you realize that profiles are hidden in WinXP. Your profiles are not affected by uninstalling. you don't copy/paste the profiles, but rather the individual files. If you have never done it, it may be perplexing, but this is something which has been doable since NS4.x, at least. You copy the Inbox, or better the renamed Inbox, from any profile|account, and paste it into another one. All you need to do is to add your wife's account, not profile, and paste her old renamed Inbox. The fact that there is still a lot of confusion between profiles and account goes back to Netscape4.x, which had one account/profile.
If you do not understand what I am saying, I will be happy to assist you.
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Postby humpd » Tue 16 Jan, 2007 7:07 pm

Fulvio: I guess I am confused by "account" vs "profile." I have to create a profile in Thunderbird for my wife in TB's profile manager first, do I not? In doing so, I set up her account settings for my SBC email account. Then, I find her mail files which are in SeaMonkey and copy her inbox and address book to her new inbox and address book in TB. This is what I tried to do but none of the saved mail transferred. By renaming the file, exactly what do you mean. Maybe that is where the problem is.
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Postby Fulvio » Tue 16 Jan, 2007 8:28 pm

Let's get one thing out of the way, i.e. account vs profile. as far as my wife is concerned, since I am home, and have the time, and she works, she not only does not mind, but urges me to check her mail. So, there is no reason to have a separate profile. Now, a profile could be in the same Windows folder as yours, or in a separate Appl.Data folder. In this case the paths would be:C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles
C:\Documents and Settings\user_name1\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles
and you would be "user_name", and your wife would be "user_name1". This will be for maximum privacy. Each one of you logs in separately, and each one would have a separate folder. It does not seem to be that way, and if all folders are in "user_name", then we dealing with separate accounts, which may not allow privacy, but it is simple to deal with.
Assuming the simpler case, your mail is going to be in C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\xxxxx.Thunderbird\Mail\pop.isp.net, while your wife's mail will be in:C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\xxxxx.Thunderbird\Mail\pop.isp-1.net. Two separate folders which would have their own pairs of files, i.e. Inbox and Inbox.msf, etc. If you copied the old Inbox without renaming it, you would replace the contents of your present Inbox, but you say that nothing was transferred. To me, it means that it was pasted in the wrong folder. Renaming a file like Inbox is done by right clicking on the old Inbox, and renaming it Oldinbox, or anything you want, then right click|copy the renamed file (Oldinbox, now), finally deposit it in correct folder, by right clicking|paste. When you reopen Thunderbird, which was closed while you all that, you will find an Oldinbox folder.
Are you doing things which way?
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Postby humpd » Wed 17 Jan, 2007 9:39 am

Thanks Fulvio. The problem is solved. What I did was copy the inbox, etc. to the wrong folder. I had my wife's account set to save mail to the default local folders, not the "pop.isp-1.net folder. Once I copied the folders of her SeaMonkey mail folders to the local folders in TB, everything worked. Simple problem and I cannot believe I did not attempt to copy the mail to the local folders area right away. Oh well, live and learn. Thanks, again.
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Postby Fulvio » Wed 17 Jan, 2007 10:22 am

Good to hear that the problem is solved. I do not deal with the Local Folders, because it is confusing , in the case one has several accounts like I do. I keep my ducks in order by using their own mail folders. The exception is AOL or AIM mail which insist in using the Local Folders.
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