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by **Antony** » Wed 04 Oct, 2006 7:23 am

Edit: Topic split from [sdt=12165]smooth zooming by scrolling in OS X[/sdt].

Originally, I mentioned "QuickTime Player 7 (free) is recommanded for watching the video." Later I changed to "QuickTime Player 7 (free) is required for watching the video." after proper HTML code is make available in SillyDog701 Message Centre.

Don_HH2K wrote:BTW, your video once again does not "require" QuickTime 7 to work.

I thought the link in this forum page won't work.

Anyway, in the original page (MacCentre701), QuickTime Player is required. I shall implement the BBCode.

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by **Antony** » Wed 04 Oct, 2006 9:55 am

Don_HH2K wrote:BTW, your video once again does not "require" QuickTime 7 to work.

I believe QuickTime Player 7 is now required.

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by **Don_HH2K** » Wed 04 Oct, 2006 10:40 am

Antony wrote:
Don_HH2K wrote:BTW, your video once again does not "require" QuickTime 7 to work.
I believe QuickTime Player 7 is now required.

So you purposely broke it in everything else? I think we should reconsider who's the extremist.

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by **Antony** » Wed 04 Oct, 2006 10:45 am

Don_HH2K wrote:So you purposely broke it in everything else?

What?

The video clip is still in the same location, serving from open source Darwin Streaming Server, if you are interested to know. I did not move/change the video clip.

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by **Don_HH2K** » Wed 04 Oct, 2006 10:51 am

If it now absolutely requires QuickTime 7, then it isn't very open, is it?

It might interest you to know that not all platforms have a QuickTime browser plugin available (specifically, Win64, Linux, and a few other UNIX distros).

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by **Antony** » Wed 04 Oct, 2006 11:12 am

This,

[sdp=77684]Don_HH2K[/sdp] wrote:Here's my version. (encoded with WMV9 screen profile, which isn't one of the standardized profiles, so this probably won't run on Flip4Mac or anything)

,
did not do much better? did it?
Not even on Microsoft's very own Media Player 9.

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by **Don_HH2K** » Wed 04 Oct, 2006 1:42 pm

Actually, it would have: that's a direct downloadable link, which could be played back in anything that supports the format. Yours directly calls the QuickTime plugin.

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by **Antony** » Wed 04 Oct, 2006 7:59 pm

My did not mislead at all. I merely improved the HTML code used in phpBB software. Applying the HTML code the way it should be.

Why do you have a problem with "QuickTime Player required" thing? I highly doubt that you would have same issue with "Windows Media Player required".

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by **Don_HH2K** » Wed 04 Oct, 2006 8:24 pm

Antony wrote:My did not mislead at all. I merely improved the HTML code used in phpBB software. Applying the HTML code the way it should be.

So, this is applying HTML code the way it should be?

Code: Select all: <object classid="clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B" codebase="http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab" height="266" width="400"> <param name="src" value="http://mac.sillydog.org/archives/pic/qt_zoom_scroll2.jpg"> <param name="href" value="rtsp://qt.sillydog.com/qt.sillydog.com/zooming_1048s.mov"> <param name="type" value="image/x-quicktime"><param name="autoplay" value="false"><param name="target" value="myself"> <embed src="http://mac.sillydog.org/archives/pic/qt_zoom_scroll2.jpg" type="image/x-quicktime" href="rtsp://qt.sillydog.com/qt.sillydog.com/zooming_1048s.mov" target="myself" autoplay="false" pluginspage="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/" height="266" width="400"></object>

Looks like a call to the QuickTime plugin to me.

Antony wrote:Why do you have a problem with "QuickTime Player required" thing? I highly doubt that you would have same issue with "Windows Media Player required".

The WMP buttons don't bear any "required" slogan.

If the QuickTime buttons said "QuickTime 7 Recommended" or "Free QuickTime" or such, then I wouldn't mind.

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by **Antony** » Wed 04 Oct, 2006 8:27 pm

Apple does provide "free QuickTime player" buttons for website to use.

I won't consider "required" is part of "slogan", it merely describes what was needed.

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by **Don_HH2K** » Wed 04 Oct, 2006 8:32 pm

It describes one of many possibilities, yes.

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by **Antony** » Thu 05 Oct, 2006 12:35 am

Exactly what's your problem?

I applied the proper HTML code for the video clip, what's wrong with this?

What I stated was correct, no misleading at all.
I stated QuickTime Player 7 was required, and QuickTime 7 is required.

I just tested it, and it did not work with QuickTime 6.5.2.

In contrary, your WMV9 encoded video can't be playback on Microsoft's very own Media Player 9.

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by **Don_HH2K** » Thu 05 Oct, 2006 5:34 am

Antony wrote:I applied the proper HTML code for the video clip, what's wrong with this?

It worked fine in whatever player you wanted before, when you had directly linked it. Now it makes calls directly to the QuickTime browser plugin, which means you need QuickTime to view it despite the fact that other players are capable of watching it as well.

Antony wrote:What I stated was correct, no misleading at all.
I stated QuickTime Player 7 was required, and QuickTime 7 is required.

Now that it calls the QuickTime plugin directly, yes. The video data itself can be played in anything that supports H.264 or whatever you have that video encoded in.

Antony wrote:I just tested it, and it did not work with QuickTime 6.5.2.

You're the one that didn't need the latest of everything.

Antony wrote:In contrary, your WMV9 encoded video can't be playback on Microsoft's very own Media Player 9.

Actually, it did. You didn't want to install the updated codecs to play it back.

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by **Antony** » Thu 05 Oct, 2006 5:51 am

Don_HH2K wrote:It worked fine in whatever player you wanted before, when you had directly linked it. Now it makes calls directly to the QuickTime browser plugin, which means you need QuickTime to view it despite the fact that other players are capable of watching it as well.

It sounds like you against proper HTML coding for proper delivery of media.

Don_HH2K wrote:Actually, it did. You didn't want to install the updated codecs to play it back.

And you did not want to install QuickTime 7.

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by **Don_HH2K** » Thu 05 Oct, 2006 5:58 am

Antony wrote:
Don_HH2K wrote:It worked fine in whatever player you wanted before, when you had directly linked it. Now it makes calls directly to the QuickTime browser plugin, which means you need QuickTime to view it despite the fact that other players are capable of watching it as well.
It sounds like you against proper HTML coding for proper delivery of media.

So proper HTML coding for proper delivery of media... means you specifically need to call the QuickTime plugin?

Antony wrote:
Don_HH2K wrote:Actually, it did. You didn't want to install the updated codecs to play it back.
And you did not want to install QuickTime 7.

Exactly -- because I can play those videos back fine in Windows Media Player. I could play the "QuickTime 7 Required" ones back in a 32-bit browser with the QuickTime browser plugins, but since I'm not using a 32-bit browser, that isn't possible.

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