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by **Old Learner** » Sun 03 Dec, 2006 6:08 am

Since a few days, my Netscape 8.1.2, even idling, consumes 50% or more of the CPU resources. I have a dual processor Intel Pentium4, 3000 MHz PC with Windows XP Professional 5.01.2600, SP2 and 2048 MB memory. Is there a Java script running or what? How can I find out? Thanks!

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0

by **Old Learner** » Mon 04 Dec, 2006 4:49 am

I deleted Netscape, cleaned the registery, re-installed Netscape and now everything is fine.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0

by **Antony** » Mon 04 Dec, 2006 8:00 am

Thanks for reporting. That's rather easy.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1) Gecko/20061010 Firefox/2.0

by **Fulvio** » Mon 04 Dec, 2006 12:50 pm

Sadly, it may happen again. I went through 15 uninstalls and reinstalls with 8.1, but I have the original 8.1.2. Perhaps because I stopped using it.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a1) Gecko/20061204 Minefield/3.0a1

by **rsparso** » Sat 17 Feb, 2007 2:51 pm

This just happened to me, CPU at 50% locking up Netscape. Seems it almost occurs on a timer. The problem goes away if I diable my DSL. Does anyone think this is suspicious ?

I hate to go through the install and have to reconfigure everything again !

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)

by **Fulvio** » Sat 17 Feb, 2007 5:37 pm

There are several problems with 8.1.2, mainly releted to javascript. I know that there is a 8.1.3, in the works, but I have no idea when it will come out, nor if all its problems will be fixed.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9a3pre) Gecko/20070216 SeaMonkey/1.5a

by **dawgtown24** » Sat 17 Feb, 2007 7:17 pm

Think I have identified the cause of the problem (at least for me). Fulvio's comment about 8.1.2 having problems with Java scripts led me to see if my Java Runtime Environment was up-to-date. It wasn't - I was running 1.4.1.1. Looking for the current version led me to a website that said "As of Feb 14, 2007, the current version of Sun's Java client is 1.5.0_11. If you have previous versions of this Plugin installed, you should remove them." My browser problems started occuring about Feb 15 (weird coincidence or not?). I removed my JRE and Netscape stopped consuming 50% memory and freezing up. However, when I installed the new version of Java RE the problem reappeared again. I'll leave JRE uninstalled until Netscape comes out with a new release.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20060912 Netscape/8.1.2

by **Fulvio** » Sat 17 Feb, 2007 7:27 pm

That is very useful to know.

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by **Netscape Adict** » Sat 17 Feb, 2007 8:02 pm

The Fix:
From the Netscape site the issue is around accessing ns8-stats.netscape.com
I added a host entry to the hosts file as follows:

1) Open a command prompt.
3) Use notepad and edit the hosts file in the windows directory. C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts .
There is no extension on this file.
4) Add the line "127.0.0.1 ns8-stats.netscape.com" without the quotes
5) Save the hosts file.
6) Restart Netscape.

There were several other ways reportedly to fix this, but this seemed to address my issue without breaking anything.

BTW, rumor is that 8.1.3 is about to be released (April) and that a Netscape 9 is planned by end of the year.

Previous Post: I have done enough troubleshooting to understand the manifestation of the problem, but no idea what is causing it. If you bring up Task Manager, sort by CPU descending, and watch, this is what you will see. You can set your watch by it. For one minute Netscape 8.1.2 works just fine, then for one minute it goes into a 99% CPU utilization. Whatever it is doing freezes any activity. This cycle continues indefinitely, no apparent growth in memory usage. As others have stated, this just started recently, so it is some kind of software update to Windows XP. I do not think it was from this last patch Tuesday because I do not allow automatic updates. I like to review them before they are installed. The problem existed before I installed the patches. However, Symantec Internet Security could be implicated. I have not tried to see if it is, but it updates automatically. I had the problem at a lower JRE and also at the current level. I have not tried removing it to see if that corrects the issue.

This is really annoying. Netscape 8.1.2 is a much better implementation than Firefox 2.0 for my purposes. I hope the Netscape boys are aware of this issue and do fix it or at least identify the culprit and a workaround.

Hope others can confirm the CPU usage cycle.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061204 Firefox/2.0.0.1

by **dawgtown24** » Sat 17 Feb, 2007 8:36 pm

The bugaboo is back. Thought removing Java RE fixed it (Netscape worked perfectly for an hour or so) but now it's freezing up every 5 minutes again. Like you said - this is annoying.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20060912 Netscape/8.1.2

by **Netscape Adict** » Sat 17 Feb, 2007 8:39 pm

Look at my previous response.

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by **rsparso** » Sat 17 Feb, 2007 8:40 pm

So what happened on or around 2/15 ? I don't have any auto updates enabled, (apart form Netscape's various lists). I don't have a JRE installed either !

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061204 Firefox/2.0.0.1

by **Antony** » Sat 17 Feb, 2007 8:42 pm

Netscape Adict wrote:Netscape 8.1.2 is a much better implementation than Firefox 2.0 for my purposes. I hope the Netscape boys are aware of this issue and do fix it or at least identify the culprit and a workaround.

However, most people would prefer the Firefox 2.0 approach, from my observation.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061204 Firefox/2.0.0.1

by **Netscape Adict** » Sat 17 Feb, 2007 8:55 pm

rsparso wrote:So what happened on or around 2/15 ? I don't have any auto updates enabled, (apart form Netscape's various lists). I don't have a JRE installed either !

I have no idea. Something happened with the site ns8-stats.netscape.com, I guess. By setting the DNS resolution to the same as the localhost seems to be a workaround.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20060912 Netscape/8.1.2

by **rsparso** » Sat 17 Feb, 2007 10:14 pm

OK, shucks, ignorance time. Localhost I think I understand, resolution I don't. How do you configure ?

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