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Postby richard mitnick » Fri 05 Sep, 2008 3:34 pm

Not ready for prime time here.

Too many things that I need every day are missing, like "remembering" email addresses I use all day long at work in my home ISP's web mail. Like some equivalent of the WalletCrypto thing in SM or the bookmarklet in FF to overpower MyYahoo!'s refusal to remember multiple user id's.

No helps.

No configuration to speak of.

No loading of .pdf's.

No File|Open

It did a first rate job of importing user id's and passwords, e.g., SillyDog.

but, I test things under every day conditions, which means using the browser for everything for several days.

I will try to keep abreast of advances and try again at a later date.

I must say, the reviews on what it does do right are very good. But, I must ask, why launch to the public a beta which is basically a homunculus? This smacks of deserving the accusations that Microsoft has suffered for its "vaporware". This might not be vaporware, but is very premature.

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Postby jjssparkle » Fri 05 Sep, 2008 5:33 pm

... yes ... homunculus indeed. I was just saying the same thing yesterday to a friend of mine. Y'know, Jack, this Google thing is sort of okay but doesn't it seem a bit on the homunculus side? He agreed.
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Postby richard mitnick » Fri 05 Sep, 2008 6:25 pm

From "Homunculus" in Wikipedia.

Look at the last line.

The concept of a homunculus (Latin for "little man", plural "homunculi"; the diminutive of homo, "man") is often used to illustrate the functioning of a system. In the scientific sense of an unknowable prime actor, it can be viewed as an entity or agent.

“Preformationism,â€
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Postby north450 » Sat 06 Sep, 2008 9:46 pm

Google has admitted the auto-suggest feature of Chrome's Omnibox gives it potential access to users' keystrokes, providing the company with a wealth of information on the browsing habits of its users
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/222834/goog ... esses.html

Unlike searching through Google, so long as the user has auto-suggest enabled, and Google set as their default search engine, the Omnibox will grant Google access to search enquiries without the user ever hitting the enter key.

Google says it intends to store about 2% of this information, alongside the IP address of the computer that typed it.

Given that current figures reveal Chrome has already grabbed 1% of the browser market, this could represent a huge amount of information.
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Postby richard mitnick » Sat 06 Sep, 2008 9:50 pm

Hey North-

This is very important. Thanks.

Is this something we can opt out of during installation?

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Postby north450 » Sun 07 Sep, 2008 3:46 pm

Why bother.
Theres enough browsers arround.
If Microsoft would have done this could you imagine the lawsuits.
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Postby north450 » Sun 07 Sep, 2008 3:59 pm

http://www.google.com/intl/en/privacy_terms.html

11. Content license from you

11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.

11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.

11.3 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide the Services to our users, may (a) transmit or distribute your Content over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to your Content as are necessary to conform and adapt that Content to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services or media. You agree that this license shall permit Google to take these actions.

11.4 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority necessary to grant the above license.

By the way did anyone try to delete this browser.
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Postby Fulvio » Sun 07 Sep, 2008 5:28 pm

I don't think that the abundance of browsers is a reason to reject Google Chrome, but the sneakiness used by Google to foist this, otherwise, pretty good browser, is incredible.
And, never mind the content license.
Just try to uninstall it. It is several layers deep in an unexpected location: "C:\Documents and Settings\user_name\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\Application" and, unless you close the chrome.exe process in the Task Manager, you can't uninstall it.
A computer search turned up nothing but the Shortcuts, but there was plenty of junk, including a User Data folder of nearly 60 MB.
Oh yes, they tried to be funny when I requested an uninstall, asking if it was something they said. After uninstalling, they opened a questionnaire in IE7. When I tried to close the page, they reopened another IE page. I get very irritated by any place which opens IE, when Firefox is my default, but I wished I had controlled myself, and tried to answer, and let them know what I feel about them.
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Postby richard mitnick » Sun 07 Sep, 2008 6:14 pm

Fulvio-

This is why we love you, you are truly a blessing.

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Postby north450 » Sun 07 Sep, 2008 7:23 pm

Fulvio
Great post.
What about registry entries left behind.
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Postby richard mitnick » Sun 07 Sep, 2008 9:09 pm

I went as far as searching googlechrome and found nothing.

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Postby Amrad » Mon 08 Sep, 2008 3:58 am

Hello Richard,

richard mitnick wrote:I went as far as searching googlechrome and found nothing.

Try google chrome and see what you get! ;)

Regards,

Dave.
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Postby richard mitnick » Mon 08 Sep, 2008 5:35 am

Thanks. As long as I o not need to check "google" and "chrome" separately. That would be hours and hours.

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Postby Fulvio » Mon 08 Sep, 2008 12:11 pm

As for the Registry, I use Ccleaner first, and, I found 3-4 keys. Nothing special.
Interesting, when I did Regedit, I found some unexpected stuff which flown under the radar, such as Netscape6, Orca browser, and KNinja, which I had uninstalled long ago and AOL. I left AOL alone, because there is so much junk leftover. I will have to try to figure it out.
Honestly, I see nothing to worry about Google Browser.
Consider that I have the Updater, and Google Earth, so there is a fair amount of Google stuff.
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Postby PaulD » Mon 08 Sep, 2008 12:32 pm

Fulvio - There is a 'Netscape 6' key, and within it a 'Netscape 7.2' key. They didn't change the key name for NS 7. If you have any NS 7.x installed, then the NS 6 key probably is there validly.
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