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Postby jksteinhauer » Sun 18 Aug, 2002 11:19 am

I decided to go ahead and create a new post here because the previous 4.8 post was growing rather long. This thought occurred to me after reading a post re: someone trying to eliminate splashscreens on about 4 different verisons of Communicator, 2 different versions NS 6/7, and 2 different versions of Mozilla ... I mean, c'mon! How many different versions of the same browser do you need guy? :shock:
But, this did bring to mind somewhat of a revelation to me as to what I see as a possibilty in the near or not-so-near future of the internet/browser 'wars'. Right now, albeit this to be a revolutionary, new, amazing science, it's also a business, BIG business, everyone is vying to be the best and the first - advertising dollars, IT dollars, corporate domain, etc, etc ... It's been my observation that there are really no BAD browsers anymore. They are all unique in there own ways, while sharing standards and similarities, they all bring there own shining qualities to the table of the internet. While personally, as with most of you in this forum, I have always remained, and probably always will remain, loyal to Netscape - I cut my teeth using the internet about the time 0.9 was released, it has been an amazing journey, I can't help but feel that Mr Andreesen drops by Mountainview every now and then to say 'hi' ... Netscape 7 is my default, as was every incarnation of 6, and then the older Communicator series before, but I also have and use on a regular basis - 3 other browsers, because as I've said, there are no BAD browsers anymore and they all have there qualities that I find most useful when I need to use them. Sad but true, Internet Explorer is at the bottom of the list of the other 3, I rarely use it, but I do use a derivitive of it much more frequently - MSN Explorer, because it does have communications enhancements far above IE, and I find is also more secure right from the get-go. I keep the latest issue of NS 4.x primarily because it's there still and I am loyal - I simply like to refer back to it from time to time for old time's sake, but it is, painfully slow compared to its new sibling, and left standing still as far as features. I found it interesting to watch Mozilla in the last year as it approached that magical 1.0. Quite exciting! I did my very small bit of providing feedback and it felt very good to know that I was allowed to participate in something so groundbreaking in this science, and I think we all agree that this will in turn restore Netscape back to being king of the Mountain once again! (I actually already feel that has happened) Now that 1.0 has been achieved, I find that my needs are met now by using the end commercial result which is Netscape 7.0. It contains the communication medium that I find I cannot conduct things without now, ie AIM and a very useful multi account email, along with superlative Gecko rendering.
This brings me to the focal point. There is one other browser that I find to be number 2 on my list. While 98% of the time, all of my nternet access is done by means of NS 7.0, I find that the other 1 1/2% I can attribute to Opera. The other 1/2 % is a split between MSN Explorer and then lastly - IE. Opera seems to be on another track of the future, it borrows heavily from Netscape in my opinion, but takes that information and mutates it in very interesting ways. Namely, the abilty to revert between ID strings to adapt to pages rendering different codes. This one feature alone I find to be evermore innovative, it's an old feature, but all inclusive. I foresee a single program one day that will have the abilty to contain all of the primary browsers with a shared or interactive email client, and shared and interactive instant messaging, as Trillian leads the way in that department. Very interesting indeed, exciting! :idea: :wink:


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Postby Mega\ » Sun 18 Aug, 2002 3:37 pm

I do 99% of my access by NN 7.0, and 0.5% with NN 4.71 and 0.5% with MSIE 2.0.
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Re: 4.8

Postby Antony » Sun 18 Aug, 2002 10:09 pm

jksteinhauer wrote:... I mean, c'mon! How many different versions of the same browser do you need guy?


I used to know someone having 8 different versions of Netscapes installed.
My personal record was 7 (0.94, 1.xx, 2.02, 3.04, 4.02, 4.76, 6.xx).
And our Netscape profile king has more than 8 Netscape profiles, but I am not sure how many Netscapes he installed.
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Postby Wellander » Sun 06 Apr, 2003 9:30 pm

Hi,
I have all of the netscapes installed on my windows 2000 pro system and use all of them too.
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Postby Mandrake » Sun 06 Apr, 2003 10:54 pm

Wow, I'm boring! IE6 SP1 and Mozilla...
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Postby Hendikins » Mon 07 Apr, 2003 12:10 am

Browsers and usage (est):

- Mozilla (latest CVS) [99%]
- Phoenix (usually a few days old CVS, because it's a low priority) [0.8%]
- Konqueror 3.1 [0.15%]
- Opera 7.0 test build [0.05%]
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Re: 4.8

Postby Fulvio » Mon 07 Apr, 2003 12:11 am

Antony wrote:
jksteinhauer wrote:... I mean, c'mon! How many different versions of the same browser do you need guy?


I used to know someone having 8 different versions of Netscapes installed.
My personal record was 7 (0.94, 1.xx, 2.02, 3.04, 4.02, 4.76, 6.xx).
And our Netscape profile king has more than 8 Netscape profiles, but I am not sure how many Netscapes he installed.


I don't count what I have nor how many Profiles I have. And, although it sounds funny to have several profiles, I do it for the simple fact that, sharing is not a good idea and if something goes wrong with one, I will just discard it. I want to see the differences between builds, and I have Sillydog, Basic, Compact and Profman 7.02, as well as DJGM to which I wanted to add Mail, and it never worked, but AIM which I did not want stuck. There are subtle differences in all five. I have the same mail accounts in each one, I try to use them, if I can every day. But each one has a different homepage, and set of bookmarks. The home page difference counts no more, as I have seven tabs as home group in Sillydog. I have so much more variety this way, and I try different compatible themes and addon in each. My wife is stuck on 7.0, because she likes toyshop, and there have been no upgrades. That make six 7.x. I have also 4.78 which I hardly ever use now. But, most important is Beonex, which I can make my default, while NS trip all over themselves if I make it default, i.e. the shortcut will not open. And also Mozilla 1.3 and a 1.4a nightly. And of course Phoenix and Kmeleon.
I have a few other IE-based things, which I hardly ever use, and IE mainly because I have also AOL and for windows updates.
That's a lot of them, but I could cut down the 7.02 at any time.
My use of AOL is limited to give them a hard time, doing beta testing.
OK, when I have time, I will weed out this managerie. I guess I am a browser pack rat. I forgot Opera. I liked 7.01, but 7.03 seems different , and, surprise, surprise have not had time to understand. Opera is the fastest, no contest.
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Postby DJGM » Mon 07 Apr, 2003 3:21 am

Wellander wrote:Hi,
I have all of the netscapes installed on my windows 2000
pro system and use all of them too.



No you don't. At least you don't use them all here, except old NS4.x releases
and occasional Mozilla builds. When did you last login to this site with NS7.x?
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Postby Mandrake » Mon 07 Apr, 2003 3:29 am

Browser Usage? Mozilla 99.5%, IE 6 0.5% (Windows Update).
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Postby hartlandcat » Tue 08 Apr, 2003 3:54 pm

Windows XP
Netscape 7.0 - 94%
Netscape 4.8 - 1%
MSIE 6.0 - 1%
Opera 7.0 - 1%
Mozilla 1.0 - 1%
Netscape 3.0 - 0.5%
Opera 6.0 - 0.5%
Phoenix 0.4 - 0.5%
K-Meleon 0.7 - 0.5%

Windows 98
Netscape 6.2 - 50%
MSIE 5.5 - 30%
Netscape 4.5 - 20%
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Postby Josh » Tue 08 Apr, 2003 8:03 pm

Here's Me:

Gecko: 73%
Opera 7: 11%
Lynx: 5%
IE: 4%
NS 4: 3%
Opera 6: 3%
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