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OS 9 vs OS X

Postby hartlandcat » Tue 11 Nov, 2003 12:01 pm

I have to say, in many ways I prefer the appearance of the OS 9 interface to that of OS X.

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Postby DJGM » Tue 11 Nov, 2003 12:20 pm

Such a shame that Mac OS 9.x is technically obsolete and almost as crashy as Windows ME . . . !
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Postby Mandrake » Tue 11 Nov, 2003 5:52 pm

Me crashes in one way or another at least once a day for me. I'm very glad Microsoft discontinued the old 9x product line!

One has to admire BlueCurve under Gnome 2.x or KDE 3.x though, I found it the most visually pleasing UI, without having dozens of annoying effects that just hog my CPU and Memory! (aka, Windows XP and Mac OS X)
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Postby hartlandcat » Wed 12 Nov, 2003 2:23 am

DJGM wrote:Such a shame that Mac OS 9.x is technically obsolete and almost as crashy as Windows ME . . . !

No-one has ever mentioned anything to me about Mac OS 9 being crashy.
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Postby Antony » Wed 12 Nov, 2003 3:28 am

hartlandcat wrote:
DJGM wrote:Such a shame that Mac OS 9.x is technically obsolete and almost as crashy as Windows ME . . . !

No-one has ever mentioned anything to me about Mac OS 9 being crashy.
OS 9 is pretty stable for me.
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Postby Mandrake » Wed 12 Nov, 2003 8:39 am

I found from the limited use I've had in OS 9.2, it's about as stable as the 9x product line of Windows. I also don't find the choice of browsers on OS9 too thrilling either.
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Postby hartlandcat » Wed 12 Nov, 2003 6:25 pm

Well, Mac OS 9.2 is being very stable for me. AOL keeps crashing, but it doesn't bring down the whole system, unlike how it would in Windows ME. Also, I keep trying to download Netscape, but it keeps not really getting anywhere and then the download sort of "zones out". So far, the only browser I've managed to download and install successfully is iCab 2.9, which is okay, but not really what I want to be using as my default browser. My Mac came with IE 5.0 and Netscape 4.7, but I don't really want to be using them because they are too slow.
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Postby DJGM » Wed 12 Nov, 2003 6:48 pm

You need to upgrade to Mac OS X then. Plenty of browsers to choose from, and they're mostly Mozilla based.
Plus the blazingly fast Safari browser. All the web browsers officially made for Mac OS 9.x, are now out of date.
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Postby Antony » Wed 12 Nov, 2003 7:55 pm

Well, althought we all know OS 9 is a bit out of date, you can still use OS 9.
In Windows world, still lots of people using Windows 95/98.
Also, a copy of OS X is not cheap.
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Postby DJGM » Wed 12 Nov, 2003 8:07 pm

Mac OS X v10.2 Jaguar can be picked up at fairly reasonable prices over on eBay.
You could get Mac OS X v10.2 Jaguar now, and buy Mac OS X v10.3 Panther later.
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Postby Antony » Wed 12 Nov, 2003 8:26 pm

I would suggest to play a bit of OS 9 first, get more memory decide later.
We don't need to get the latest version of whichever software available.
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Postby hartlandcat » Thu 13 Nov, 2003 11:52 am

I have Adobe Photoshop installed on my Mac (it was already installed by the previous owner when it arrived) and I don't have the disk for it. If I upgrade to OS X, will I lose Photoshop?

As for Ebay... isn't it illegal to resell software like that, or does Apple software have a more "liberal" licencing system than Microsoft?
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Postby DJGM » Thu 13 Nov, 2003 12:43 pm

As long as the system software hasn't already been installed, or the box hasn't been
opened, legally it should be OK to sell it privately on eBay, or in the classified adverts.
There are many unused copies of Microsoft Windows available to purchase on eBay.

As for Photoshop . . . if you install Mac OS X, you'll still be able to use any apps you've
got installed under Mac OS 9 (Photoshop included) using the "Classic Environment".
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Postby hartlandcat » Thu 13 Nov, 2003 1:11 pm

The "classic environment"... is that actually Mac OS 9, or is it just an emulator?

Anyhow, I have a 6GB hard drive, a 333MHz processor and 160MB of RAM... what version of OS X do you suggest I get (if at all)?
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Postby DJGM » Thu 13 Nov, 2003 2:15 pm

The "classic environment" runs the bare bones of whatever version of Mac OS 9 is
installed on the Macintosh HDD, on top of Mac OS X, and it places the any "classic"
apps on the Dock alongside the icons for Mac OS X apps while they're running.

To make the most of Mac OS X, you'll need to have more memory installed, and a
larger HDD. The new OS requires 1.5 GB of HDD space, and at least 128MB RAM.

My iMac originally had just 32MB RAM and only 4 GB HDD. I have since upgraded
the internal hardware to 190MB RAM, and a 18.6 GB HDD. The type of memory
modules required are SO-DIMMS, like you'd install in an ordinary laptop. The
type of HDD needed is a standard IDE type. This is the sort of HDD you'd
normally find installed inside most standard PC systems.

As I said earlier, you can pick up Mac OS X v10.2 quite cheaply on eBay, since it's
recently been superceded by v10.3. You can get v10.2 now, and get v10.3 later.
Or, if you've got a spare £90, you can certainly buy Mac OS X v10.3 now.

In the long run, it'll be worth it, as more and more Macintosh software vendors
stop supporting Mac OS 9.x. I hardly ever run Mac OS 9.x these days. So much
so, I'm seriously tempted to uninstall it, and run Mac OS X exclusively . . .
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