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Moving emails from Netscape 7.1 to Outlook 2000

Postby Tiembo » Tue 18 Nov, 2003 4:27 pm

Hello all,

Is there a way to move emails from Netscape 7.1 to Outlook 2000? I know for Netscape 4.7 you import through Outlook Express and then move the emails from OE to Outlook. However, OE does not recognize Netscape 7.1's emails.

Is there a way to move from 7.1 to Outlook 2k? If not, is there a way to revert the Netscape 7.1 emails back to 4.7?

Thanks in advance!
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Postby Ramona » Tue 18 Nov, 2003 6:20 pm

Hi Tiembo, and welcome to the Forum!

The mail folders (the ones with no SNM or MSF extensions) are the same format in both programs, and may be directly copied from one mail directory to the other, using Windows Explorer.

To copy 7.1 email to Communicator 4.7:

Close Communicator
Open Windows Explorer
Navigate to your Mail Folder
~\Program Files\Netscape\Users\username\Mail
Rename mail files WITHOUT an SNM extension
E.G., Inbox to OldInbox, Drafts to OldDrafts, etc.

Next:
Close Netscape 7 and Quick Launch (if enabled)
Navigate to your Mail Account Folder: Profiles Location
Copy all files with NO MSF extensions
Paste these files into the Communicator Mail folder

Once you have opened Communicator, the Mail in the renamed Mail folders can be copied into the active folders: Inbox, Drafts, etc.
Highlight the Mail and do a drag and drop.
Drag mail from the renamed folder, and drop into the corresponding folder, i.e., Inbox, Drafts, etc.

Let us know if you have further questions.

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Postby Alice » Wed 19 Nov, 2003 10:23 am

To answer your first question, no, there is no way to import your Netscape 7.1 mail DIRECTLY to Outlook or Outlook Express. You have to copy the Netscape 7.1 mail filess into Netscape Communicator first, then go from there.

I found this with a groups.google search.
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From: Terry Li[MSFT] (snip)@online.microsoft.com)
Subject: RE: Import Netscape 7.0 mail and address book
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.outlook.general
Date: 2003-06-02 10:26:58 PST

(snip)
I am sorry to tell that there is no direct way for us to import the data from
Netscape 7.0 to Outlook. We understand your needs to easily transfer the data from Netscape to Outlook, and hope we can provide this feature in Outlook.
However, the technical information about the Netscape data formats are not provided to Microsoft and Microsoft is not authorized to develop such kinds of import/export engines or converters. I am sorry if this causes any inconvenience.

However, I found that we can use the following steps to work around this
issue:

1. Install an earlier version of Netscape. (For example, Netscape 4.77)
2. In the older version of Netscape, import the data from Netscape 7.0
3. Use the information in the following articles to import data from the
earlier version of Netscape into Outlook:

242008 OL2000: How to Import Messages and Addresses from Netscape Messenger 4.5
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=242008

291601 OL2002: How to Import Messages and Addresses from Netscape Messenger 4.5
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=291601

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From: Gord McFee (snip)
Subject: Re: Migrating from NS7 to OL2002 - Going nuts...
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6_outlookexpress
Date: 2003-09-28 07:20:33 PST

(snip)
>
> Is there any (ANY) way of getting NS7 files with many emails (~15000)
> and a sizeable number of contacts (~1000) into Outlook - or is there
> any other proven workaround going through other programs? Does anyone
> maybe know of some tool that uses the OLE automation features of
> Outlook 2002 to read RFC822 mbox format and writes folders and
> mails/attachmeents?

If I have understood you correctly, here is the way I have done it.

First, import the NS7 message files to Netscape Communicator. It's just a
matter of copying all the messages files (the ones *without* a suffix) to
the appropriate folder in Communicator, with both programs closed. Run
Communicator once and access all of the folders so the index files are
created. Then import into Outlook Express. This always works for me.
(The only problem is that sometimes nested folders are not "found".
The workaround is to move them all to the root folder and renest them
afterwards.) Then export the messages from Outlook Express to Outlook.

For the address book, export it as a .ldif file. That imports directly into
Outlook Express.

Then the export to Outlook should be easy from Files -> Export.
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Postby Fulvio » Wed 19 Nov, 2003 1:08 pm

<However, the technical information about the Netscape data formats are not provided to Microsoft ...

I wonder what they mean by that? Would they be unauthorized with Mozilla Mail?
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Postby Alice » Wed 19 Nov, 2003 1:17 pm

Hi Fulvio,

Here's the next post in the thread (rifleman didn't let that one pass!):
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From: rifleman (me@nospamever.net)
Subject: RE: Import Netscape 7.0 mail and address book
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.outlook.general
Date: 2003-06-02 10:33:57 PST

(snip)
> However, the technical information about the Netscape data formats
> are not provided to Microsoft

(snip) Its a standard Unix MBOX format.
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Postby Fulvio » Wed 19 Nov, 2003 1:40 pm

I understood that. I am curious if it means that is being asked by other Mail Clients, and only then a conversion will be made available. Mozilla is open source, but it may not be a bad idea if conversion is not easily available.
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Postby Alice » Wed 19 Nov, 2003 1:57 pm

Oh, ok.

I figure it was just bs from ms :P

PS It's simple as pie to import from Outlook Express 5 to Mozilla 1.5. Just did it now, out of curiosity... from Mozilla 1.5 mail window:
Tools, Import, Mail, Outlook Express.
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Postby Ramona » Wed 19 Nov, 2003 4:41 pm

Hi Tiempo,

I hope we can encourage you to continue to use Netscape Mail. Even though you are having problems, I feel certain that we can help you troubleshoot, and get your Netscape 7.1 Mail & Newsgroups working, if that's what you would like to do.

Take a look at DJGM's page, for a list of MSIE's Unpatched Security Vulnerabilities. This alone is reason enough to NOT use MSIE/OE. I have approximately 60 MS Security Update notifications sitting in my Email for 2003, even as we speak... I can count Netscape Security vulnerabilities for this year on one hand.

Keep us posted on your email problems, and if I can help you get your 7.1 email working, just let me know.

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Postby Alice » Thu 20 Nov, 2003 8:30 am

Hi Tiempo,

I didn't understand that you were having problems with Netscape 7.1 mail that you wanted to troubleshoot. I just figured that you were a Microsoft Office Outlook mail user that had Netscape 7.1 mail you wanted to import.

By all means let us help you with your Netscape Mail problems if that's the case.

There certainly are many security issues involved with Microsoft products, and lots of security patches. My husband uses Internet Explorer 5.5sp2 and Outlook Express 5.5 and I've tried to keep up with all the IE/OE security updates (which do work in Win95, by the way). Seeing how Microsoft will soon drop support for IE5.5sp2 I wouldn't want him to keep using OE for e-mail, but then he got a Mac last year on which I installed Netscape 7 and he uses Netscape Mail on the Mac.
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Postby Tiembo » Thu 20 Nov, 2003 9:44 am

Hello All,

Thanks for all the help! I'll give it a try soon. :)

As for staying with Netscape - this is an order from higher up, so not much I can do about it...
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Postby Alice » Thu 20 Nov, 2003 11:29 am

Hello Tiembo,

Orders from higher up we can all understand :D

Good luck with the transfer to Outlook. Let us know how you make out.
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Postby Tiembo » Tue 25 Nov, 2003 10:27 am

Hi All,

The transfer went well. The only hiccup that occured was when Outlook tried to import a distribution group from Outlook Express - it kept crashing. I deleted the distro group and just recreated it in Outlook.

Thanks again for all the help! :)
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Postby Alice » Tue 25 Nov, 2003 10:48 am

Glad to hear that the transfer went well, for the most part.

Thanks for posting back with the outcome.
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Netscape to Outlook or Entourage

Postby slodave » Fri 05 Dec, 2003 10:40 am

Does anyone have a tool that will migrate
Local Message Store not imap or pop server store. I am just interested in migrating the Local Message Store.
Address Book?
Rules?
Dictionaries?

From Netscape 4.x and Netscape 7.x to Outlook 2000, 2002 and 2003 on Windows 2000 and XP?
From Netscape 4.x and Netscape 7.x to Entourage on Macintosh OS 9 and OS 10?

Sorry for the double post as I posted this to another thread too.
Help!

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Postby Fulvio » Fri 05 Dec, 2003 12:47 pm

It will not help to double post in back to back threads. Take a look at the other one.
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