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Postby DJGM » Sun 04 Jan, 2004 6:55 am

That screenshot is not too big. It's about the size of screenshot I usually aim for.

Meanwhile, just over a year ago . . .

. . . on 30th December 2002, you wrote:Hi,
I have a question when will micorsoft stop writing inetrnet explorer
It is a no good product and I refuse to use it and I want to know when and if they will stop writing internet explorer.
Thank You.

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You've drastically changed your tune regarding browsers in the space of 12 months.
Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer and the IE devilopers at Microsoft will really appreciate it!
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Postby Antony » Sun 04 Jan, 2004 7:05 am

DJGM wrote:That screenshot is not too big. It's about the size of screenshot I usually aim for.
It was 1.xxMB BMP on GeoCities servers. I converted the picture for Wellander.
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Postby Wellander » Sun 04 Jan, 2004 4:55 pm

DJGM wrote:That screenshot is not too big. It's about the size of screenshot I usually aim for.

Meanwhile, just over a year ago . . .

. . . on 30th December 2002, you wrote:Hi,
I have a question when will micorsoft stop writing inetrnet explorer
It is a no good product and I refuse to use it and I want to know when and if they will stop writing internet explorer.
Thank You.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.79 [en] (Win98; U)


You've drastically changed your tune regarding browsers in the space of 12 months.
In the last three months.
Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer and the IE devilopers at Microsoft will really appreciate it!


Hi,
Yes.
It is because it was getting to the point where this is one of the only sites that I can view in Netscape/Mozilla.
So I have swiched browsers.
In the last three months is the time frame that it took me to switch.
Sorry Netscape Fans!(as I uesd to be one)
I will still help out with the netscape browser archive though.
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Postby DJGM » Mon 05 Jan, 2004 12:04 am

If you're finding a number of sites only viewable in IE and not Gecko based browsers, it is
clearly an issue of lazy web developers that aren't adhering to the proper web standards
and writing their webpages using proprietary markup code that only works correctly in IE.

According to Upsdell's Browser Trends, use of Gecko based, and other modern, non-IE
based browsers is gradually on the rise, and the overall use of IE, is now on the decline.
This is more or less what I predicted, when Microsoft announced at some point last year
they were discontinuing production of the standalone version of IE for Windows. Also,
the subsequent discontinuation of IE for Macintosh has also contributed to this.

The browser trend is buckling in favour of real browsers, rather than OS components!
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Postby Wellander » Mon 05 Jan, 2004 12:12 am

Hi,
Internet Explorer is a real browser.
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Postby DJGM » Mon 05 Jan, 2004 12:25 am

Wellander wrote:Hi,
Internet Explorer is a real browser.


No. You are wrong. Internet Explorer is a dangerously insceure, technically obsolete, and sub-
standard HTML renderer, that does not correctly conform to recognised web standards and
internet protocols. To all intents and purposes, it effectively ignores the most fundamental
protocol of the web, that being the Hyper Text Transfer Protocol. If all browsers were to
ignore HTTP like IE does, the web would essentially descend into utter chaos!

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And, to reiterate what has been said before . . .

Internet Explorer is not a browser . . . it's an operating system component!

Anyway, this is the General Area forum. Browser discussions should not be taking place here.
Could someone in charge of this particular forum kindly move the last couple of posts, from
the one I posted about browser trends, to the Windows or Netscape/Mozilla forum?
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