SillyDog701

[ChrisI]

[paraphrasing Asa Dotzler]
Today Mozilla.org has made available for download the first testing
candidate on the road to Mozilla 1.7. They intend to have several of
these candidates over the next month or so, culminating in a final
release in May.

Help them make Mozilla 1.7 the best Mozilla release ever by grabbing RC
1 and pushing it to the limit. Be sure to send in any Talkback crash
reports so they can improve Mozilla's stability. Also, be sure to file
any new bugs you find, as well as nominating (using the Bugzilla
blocking1.7? flag) any existing bugs that you think should block the 1.7
final release.

Release Information

Windows Installer
Linux Installer
Mac Disk Image

Release Notes TOC
Installation Instructions

Known Issues

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[Antony]

According to release notes, some interesting new features:
* A new option to prevent sites using Javascript to block the browser's context menu.
* A new set of icons for files that are associated with Mozilla.
* Date handling, especially on OS X, has been improved.
* Support for the CSS3 opacity property.

Hmm, I can't see any new icons for files associated with Mozilla. At least not in my Mac.
As for the CSS3 opacity (transparency) property, I'm still unable to verify it.

Safari still seems faster than Mozilla 1.7 RC1, and the opacity property can be achieved easily.

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[ChrisI]

I'm pretty sure there are no new features since Mozilla 1.7 Beta. The trunk was frozen until the 1.7 branch was created. Anything after Beta is bug fixes.

What that means is, in terms of the feature-set, you're looking at it.

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[DJGM]

I'm running Mozilla 1.7RC1 now. I'm a bit surprised that the UA string still shows "rv:1.7b".
Aside from that very minor concern, everything seems to be working fine with this build . . .

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[Antony]

The new features I listed was from the 1.7 RC1 release notes page (selected).

What I said was, with the understanding of everything published can be challenged, I doubt the feature lists in 1.7 RC1 Release Notes page.

The fact: I cannot see any new icon sets, and I cannot get the claimed opacity working. IF after intensive testing/verifying (which I don't have time yet), and still unable to produce what they claimed, creditability of documentation from Mozilla will be damaged.
I hope I was wrong.

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[ChrisI]

The new features I listed was from the 1.7 RC1 release notes page (selected).

Have a look at the Mozilla 1.7 Beta README.html, and the 1.7 Alpha README.html. You'll then notice that the 1.7 Release Candidate 1 README.html (which is what you cited) is just an amalgamation of the two. These are supposed to be candidates for the final release, who's README.html will contain what's new since Mozilla 1.6. As I said, no new features.

I cannot see any new icon sets,

Have a look in \Mozilla\chrome\icons\default\.
The new icons are for file types that you can assign Mozilla as the default app. This includes HTML files, XUL files, XML files, Script files, GIF files, JPEG files, and other image files. Prior to Mozilla 1.7Beta, those files would just get the generic Mozilla icon, making it difficult for those with extensions hidden to identify the file type. I assume the reason you haven't noticed the icons is because you don't have Mozilla set to handle any of those file types.

and I cannot get the claimed opacity working.

Give out your testcase, and let others run it.

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[Mandrake]

I can see the new icons, on Windows XP, I've not tried yet on SuSE Linux 9.

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[Antony]

Thank you very much for clarifying.

I cannot see any new icon sets,

Have a look in \Mozilla\chrome\icons\default\.
The new icons are for file types that you can assign Mozilla as the default app. This includes HTML files, XUL files, XML files, Script files, GIF files, JPEG files, and other image files. Prior to Mozilla 1.7Beta, those files would just get the generic Mozilla icon, making it difficult for those with extensions hidden to identify the file type. I assume the reason you haven't noticed the icons is because you don't have Mozilla set to handle any of those file types.

What the Release Notes claimed:
* A new set of icons for files that are associated with Mozilla.
And of course i set the Mozilla to handle some files before I made previous posts.

Allow me to show you graphically,

(icon, by default, Preview) and (icon, set to Safari)


(icon, set to QuickTime) and (icon, set to MSIE)


(icon, set to Photoshop Elements 2)


Now, the file type icon, when I set the default application to Mozilla 1.7 RC1. It is the default icon, not any (new) Mozilla icon.


I have proof to question Mozilla.Org's documentation. The documentation claimed to have new icon sets, however, my screenshots proved it was not the case. I stand correct.

and I cannot get the claimed opacity working.

Give out your testcase, and let others run it.

Hmm, in the original post (of this very thread),

Help them make Mozilla 1.7 the best Mozilla release ever by grabbing RC 1 and pushing it to the limit.

And I am reporting my observation.
Why can't I use the newly and exciting support - Opacity?
SillyDog701 has been using Opacity for quite a while, as I mentioned in Mozilla 1.7 Beta Released (thread), Safari 1.1/Panther supports W3C's Opacity first. (this is also reported by Frank Limbacher.) SillyDog701's implementation of W3C's Opacity works well for Safari1.1/Panther. And why should SillyDog701 not apply the new feature or support Mozilla claimed (Mozilla 1.7 RC1) was able to handle?

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[Hendikins]

There are new Win32 icons. There may need to be some clarification if there are no new MacOS X ones, however.

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[Antony]

In order to make a record - my questioning on Mozilla.org's documentation stands correct, I've uploaded the original screenshot, unresized, no modifications in PNG format (161KB). (Taken 22nd April 2004, 8:14PM, AEST)
In case they change Release Notes.

A resized one is shown below.

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[ChrisI]

What the Release Notes claimed:
* A new set of icons for files that are associated with Mozilla.
And of course i set the Mozilla to handle some files before I made previous posts.
Allow me to show you graphically,

I have proof to question Mozilla.Org's documentation. The documentation claimed to have new icon sets, however, my screenshots proved it was not the case. I stand correct.

Not yet. First you have to go to your Mozilla installation directory and verify if the icons are in existence. Second, you have to give details about how you changed the setting. Did you use the drop down menu under Open with: or did you use the Mozilla preferences menu? Third, and most importantly, it needs to be verified by another MAC user, possibly Linux if the icons are only for Windows users.

and I cannot get the claimed opacity working.

Give out your testcase, and let others run it.

Hmm, in the original post (of this very thread),

In Mozilla QA testing, a testcase is a series of actions to test a bug fix or new feature. For instance, when implementing the Back button, a testcase would be:
1. Open the Mozilla browser window
2. Go to a webpage (even better to specify a URL. I usually use www.yahoo.com)
3. From the first web page go to a different web page. (www.google.com)
4. Click on the Back Button.

If the browser goes back to the URL in step 2 (yahoo.com), the patch has passed the test. If it does anything else, the patch has failed the test.

Instead of reporting results, you need to specify where to go, what to look for, and what constitutes passing the test.

For more on testcases see: http://www.mozilla.org/quality/smoketests/
A quick look at the changelog for Mozilla 1.7Beta, and you'll find
Bug228441 - Mac builds don't render contents with -moz-opacity < 1.0
Bug236053 - opacity on table cells causes garbage to be painted
Bug228861 - Opacity ignored when containing block is not visible
Bug93156 - Implement 'opacity' according to the spec (transparency)
There you'll find details on what was implemented, and what their test cases were.

Help them make Mozilla 1.7 the best Mozilla release ever by grabbing RC 1 and pushing it to the limit.

And I am reporting my observation.

To whom? User support volunteers? To report a bug, go to http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ .

Why can't I use the newly and exciting support - Opacity?
SillyDog701 has been using Opacity for quite a while, as I mentioned in Mozilla 1.7 Beta Released (thread), Safari 1.1/Panther supports W3C's Opacity first. (this is also reported by Frank Limbacher.) SillyDog701's implementation of W3C's Opacity works well for Safari1.1/Panther.

Why do you care who supported it first? What does that have to do with implementing it in Mozilla?

And why should SillyDog701 not apply the new feature or support Mozilla claimed (Mozilla 1.7 RC1) was able to handle?

Who said you shouldn't?

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[jksteinhauer]

Is it my imagination or has anyone else noticed a slight speed increase in overall performance and page loading with RC1? My install still shows as 1.7b as well.

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[jksteinhauer]

Is it my imagination or has anyone else noticed a slight speed increase in overall performance and page loading with RC1? My install still shows as 1.7b as well.

Just finished reading the 'Read Me' on RC1. Yep, it is quicker, overall. It wasn't my imagination afterall. Also was brought to my attention that 'smooth scrolling' was available with RC1.; one of the features of FireFox (and Opera) I rather liked, glad to find it now in the Suite.
Pretty soon we'll all be calling it 'The Sweet'.

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[Antony]

What the Release Notes claimed:
* A new set of icons for files that are associated with Mozilla.
And of course i set the Mozilla to handle some files before I made previous posts.
Allow me to show you graphically,
[...]
I have proof to question Mozilla.Org's documentation. The documentation claimed to have new icon sets, however, my screenshots proved it was not the case. I stand correct.

Not yet. First you have to go to your Mozilla installation directory and verify if the icons are in existence. Second, you have to give details about how you changed the setting. Did you use the drop down menu under Open with: or did you use the Mozilla preferences menu? Third, and most importantly, it needs to be verified by another MAC user, possibly Linux if the icons are only for Windows users.

What?
Let me answer it section by section.

Not yet. First you have to go to your Mozilla installation directory and verify if the icons are in existence.

Not yet?
Mozilla.org's Release Notes for Mozilla 1.7 RC1 said
* A new set of icons for files that are associated with Mozilla.

Second, you have to give details about how you changed the setting. Did you use the drop down menu under Open with: or did you use the Mozilla preferences menu?

Screenshots I posted tells all.

What's the difference between the using the “Get Infoâ€

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[ChrisI]

[quote="Antony"]Screenshots I posted tells all.

What's the difference between the using the “Get Infoâ€

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