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What do you think about IE ?
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What do you think about IE ?
by pedrohqb » Fri 18 Oct, 2002 2:37 pm
In my school in São Paulo, my computer teacher alway say to I catch IE. But it is a horrible browser. Because here all peaple usa IE and don't konow Netscape. The computer master of school think the all products of Micro$oft are gooder then other companies. Do you think he is corretly ?
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by DJGM » Fri 18 Oct, 2002 3:33 pm
No, he is totally wrong. Point him in the direction of the articles below, that
lists the 21 currently known unpatched security holes that have been
found in versions of Microsoft Internet Explorer for Windows.
Unpatched Internet Explorer Security Holes.
Then, when he's recovered from the shock, give him some black coffee,
and show him both of the following articles about Microsoft's underhand
tactics, like the privacy risks with Microsoft's Really Hidden Files, and
all the home truths explaining . . . What's So Bad About Microsoft?
If, after he's read these damning articles, he thinks Microsoft is still
the best maker of internet browsing software, then he has obviously
been brainwashed by Bill Gates and his evil henchman Steve Ballmer!
lists the 21 currently known unpatched security holes that have been
found in versions of Microsoft Internet Explorer for Windows.
Unpatched Internet Explorer Security Holes.
Then, when he's recovered from the shock, give him some black coffee,
and show him both of the following articles about Microsoft's underhand
tactics, like the privacy risks with Microsoft's Really Hidden Files, and
all the home truths explaining . . . What's So Bad About Microsoft?
If, after he's read these damning articles, he thinks Microsoft is still
the best maker of internet browsing software, then he has obviously
been brainwashed by Bill Gates and his evil henchman Steve Ballmer!
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by pedrohqb » Fri 18 Oct, 2002 6:05 pm
Hey, and more funny is when I show Netscape 7, after this they only use that. Because IE only has patches, so Netscape always inovate. I don't know why exists peaple using IE. Thanks.
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by Josh » Sat 19 Oct, 2002 1:58 am
Could this thread be moved to the Win32 forum?
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by Antony » Sat 19 Oct, 2002 7:58 am
Thanks DJGM.
I have a Netscape vs IE comparsion.
I have a Netscape vs IE comparsion.
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It's ABOMINABLE!
by Mega\ » Sun 20 Oct, 2002 3:11 pm
I had my system broken by MSIE 3.03 at 1998,
and I had to repair the system and change some parts.
This is why I ABHOR(=detest) MSIE.
It sucks my a##hole.
and I had to repair the system and change some parts.
This is why I ABHOR(=detest) MSIE.
It sucks my a##hole.
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by Hendikins » Mon 21 Oct, 2002 12:21 am
I consider myself lucky to not have to think about IE on my platform of choice 
(Note, I'm not on my machine, but the copy of IE on this machine is castrated and this machine is NOT using the IE shell )
(Note, I'm not on my machine, but the copy of IE on this machine is castrated and this machine is NOT using the IE shell
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by Mandrake » Mon 21 Oct, 2002 5:48 am
Once Litepc.com completes the new Xp/2k Lite, us users of Microsoft's newer operating systems wont have to suffer any longer either
Edit: Typo
Edit: Typo
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by James » Mon 21 Oct, 2002 12:02 pm
1. Bill Gates is NOT the Anti-Christ.
2. Steve Balmer is NOT his evil henchman.
3. IE is a browser and a good one at that.
4. ALL software is imperfect by nature... including Netscape, Mozilla and Internet Explorer.
Get a grip, folks. It's software for crying out loud... not a way of life. Like it or not, the majority of the world uses IE and in all probability will continue to do so.
2. Steve Balmer is NOT his evil henchman.
3. IE is a browser and a good one at that.
4. ALL software is imperfect by nature... including Netscape, Mozilla and Internet Explorer.
Get a grip, folks. It's software for crying out loud... not a way of life. Like it or not, the majority of the world uses IE and in all probability will continue to do so.
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by DJGM » Mon 21 Oct, 2002 4:38 pm
"Bill Gates is not anti-christ . . ."
You've got a point there. That would suggest he's the SON of the devil!
"Steve Ballmer is not an evil henchman . . ."
Considering Ballmer is the CEO of MS, that would make HIM the anti-christ!
"IE is a browser and a good one at that"
Yes, IE is a browser, that's true. But a good one it is not. Any browser that
contains 21 unpatched security holes, whilst being an integral component
of the operating system, that effectively makes it anything BUT good. IMO,
if Microsoft stripped out support for such insecure proprietary technologies
like Visual Basic Scripting and Active X, then at least half of the unpatched
security holes would literally disappear, and therefore no longer pose the
threat of exploiting and comprosing people's computers. Once they've
done that, they need to update IE's near obsolete rendering engine,
that has barely been updated since IE4.0 was released.
Once VBS and ActiveX support has been removed, and the rendering
engine has been brought right up to date, only then would IE be a good
browser, worthy of the 90+% of market share that Microsoft has unfairly
stolen from Netscape over the last 5 years. You may think that Microsoft
has won the browser war, but the fact is that neither NS or MS have won
until one of them throws in the towel and decides to not make browsers
anymore. IMO, if Microsoft won the war, they did so by cheating, and as
far as I'm concerned, NOBODY but NOBODY likes a cheat, now do they?
James, I strongly recommend you read all the following articles . . .
Microsoft's Really Hidden Files
What's So Bad About Microsoft?
If, after reading my comments here, and the aforementioned articles,
that I've linked to, you still think Microsoft is the better browser maker,
then why are you even here, on a very pro-Netscape message board?
You've got a point there. That would suggest he's the SON of the devil!
"Steve Ballmer is not an evil henchman . . ."
Considering Ballmer is the CEO of MS, that would make HIM the anti-christ!
"IE is a browser and a good one at that"
Yes, IE is a browser, that's true. But a good one it is not. Any browser that
contains 21 unpatched security holes, whilst being an integral component
of the operating system, that effectively makes it anything BUT good. IMO,
if Microsoft stripped out support for such insecure proprietary technologies
like Visual Basic Scripting and Active X, then at least half of the unpatched
security holes would literally disappear, and therefore no longer pose the
threat of exploiting and comprosing people's computers. Once they've
done that, they need to update IE's near obsolete rendering engine,
that has barely been updated since IE4.0 was released.
Once VBS and ActiveX support has been removed, and the rendering
engine has been brought right up to date, only then would IE be a good
browser, worthy of the 90+% of market share that Microsoft has unfairly
stolen from Netscape over the last 5 years. You may think that Microsoft
has won the browser war, but the fact is that neither NS or MS have won
until one of them throws in the towel and decides to not make browsers
anymore. IMO, if Microsoft won the war, they did so by cheating, and as
far as I'm concerned, NOBODY but NOBODY likes a cheat, now do they?
James, I strongly recommend you read all the following articles . . .
Microsoft's Really Hidden Files
What's So Bad About Microsoft?
If, after reading my comments here, and the aforementioned articles,
that I've linked to, you still think Microsoft is the better browser maker,
then why are you even here, on a very pro-Netscape message board?
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by Mandrake » Mon 21 Oct, 2002 5:32 pm
James, after you have read the atricles DJGM mentioned in his article earlier, I suggest you take a look at some of the stuff people are saying about Internet Explorer here: http://forum.f##k.com In addition, their may be some articles that may be of intrest to you at the f##k.com main page http://f##k.com.
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by DJGM » Mon 21 Oct, 2002 6:37 pm
Mandrake, I guess you're linking to the f***microsoft.com website
and it's forums, yes? It seems the phpBB forum software powering
this message board has just automatically censored your post.
As for James' comment that we should "Get a grip . . .", I would say
that is certainly true of the person behind the ToastyTech.com site,
written by someone whose hatred for MS is close to an obsession!
and it's forums, yes? It seems the phpBB forum software powering
this message board has just automatically censored your post.
As for James' comment that we should "Get a grip . . .", I would say
that is certainly true of the person behind the ToastyTech.com site,
written by someone whose hatred for MS is close to an obsession!
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by Mandrake » Mon 21 Oct, 2002 9:13 pm
Ah, the silly auto censoring function on the phpbb2 board DJGM, Have you read some of Nathan Lineback's "Rants" in the IE is evil section of his site? Its scary!
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by DJGM » Tue 22 Oct, 2002 11:30 am
Yes, indeed I have read Nathan's rants about IE and Microsoft in general.
Although he does have a point with some of the things he says, I still say
his hatred towards Microsoft is close to an obsession!
As for the unpatched security holes in IE, well it's leapt from 21, to 31
now. See http://www.pivx.com/larholm/unpatched/ for more details.
How anyone can say IE is a good browser, now that the number of
security vulnerabilities has increased by 50% almost overnight, is
seriously delusional and/or brainwashed by Microsoft spin!
This is DJGM, at a Manchester internet cafe, signing off!
Although he does have a point with some of the things he says, I still say
his hatred towards Microsoft is close to an obsession!
As for the unpatched security holes in IE, well it's leapt from 21, to 31
now. See http://www.pivx.com/larholm/unpatched/ for more details.
How anyone can say IE is a good browser, now that the number of
security vulnerabilities has increased by 50% almost overnight, is
seriously delusional and/or brainwashed by Microsoft spin!
This is DJGM, at a Manchester internet cafe, signing off!
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by Stu » Tue 22 Oct, 2002 12:34 pm
It's nice to see that 'browser wars' is still going strong
I use Netscape 7, Opera 6.05 and IE6. They all do the job.
Security holes get found, get patched and so on.........
I have no preferences and as long as my web sites display
correctly I don't mind which one my visitors use.
I will say however that Netscape 7 is a big improvement
'feature wise' than previous versions and I am using it more
frequently than before.
(This thread looks to be broken.... I have received a topic reply notification
http://sillydog.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2815#2815
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I use Netscape 7, Opera 6.05 and IE6. They all do the job.
Security holes get found, get patched and so on.........
I have no preferences and as long as my web sites display
correctly I don't mind which one my visitors use.
I will say however that Netscape 7 is a big improvement
'feature wise' than previous versions and I am using it more
frequently than before.
(This thread looks to be broken.... I have received a topic reply notification
http://sillydog.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2815#2815
Which shows on Page 2 of 1 ???? )
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