SillyDog701

[dapple]

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Hi -- I was happily using Netscape 7.0, then 7.1 was installed after hard drive reformat & XP reinstallation.

Is there any major advantage/difference with 7.1? I'm thinking it would be easier to import saved Netscape files into the version I was using b4 the crash. (not a techie but trying to learn).


Thanks.... :)

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[Fulvio]

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Hi -- I was happily using Netscape 7.0, then 7.1 was installed after hard drive reformat & XP reinstallation.

Is there any major advantage/difference with 7.1? I'm thinking it would be easier to import saved Netscape files into the version I was using b4 the crash. (not a techie but trying to learn).

Thanks....

I can't see of any reason why 7.0 is of any advantage, especially not the reason which you give. Why?
7.1 may be slower, although it should not be with a new computer and WinXP. I was using Quick Launch with my old computer, and, see no reason to use it now. You had to start with a new profile, but you would have been in the same boat with 7.0.
If you get a significant amount of Spam, there is a build-in Spam Control. Of course, if you really mean 7.0, it did not have a popup blocker, introduced in 7.01.

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[dapple]

Hi and thanks for your reply

Reading through this forum it seems like 7.1 has a few quirks -- that's my main concern. Don't know many NS users so figuring out/dealing with a quirky program would be hard for me. Used 7.0 for a long time problem free so I'm a big fan...

Re: spam -- my ISP filters it all out, re: pop ups it would be cool to shut them off. Thought I just hadn't figured it out in 7.0 yet.

Are there other advantages besides Spam Control and a popup blocker ?
Maybe reading here I'm seeing the occasional problem, Lol. Having to reinstall everything sure seems like a good way to clean house....

Lots of helpful info in this forum -- thumbs up!

d.

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[Don_HH2K]

There was a point here I had NS7.02 installed on one of my machines.. It didn't work with most of the add-ons that I could fins (such as those at www.mozdev.org). The Mozilla1.4-based Netscape 7.1 can handle a lot of those tools better, such as user-agent switchers (for certain misbehaving sites) and Mozilla's calendar client, OneNote, etc. which is a good alternative to having to buy Outlook.

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[Fulvio]

Hi and thanks for your reply

Reading through this forum it seems like 7.1 has a few quirks -- that's my main concern. Don't know many NS users so figuring out/dealing with a quirky program would be hard for me. Used 7.0 for a long time problem free so I'm a big fan...

Re: spam -- my ISP filters it all out, re: pop ups it would be cool to shut them off. Thought I just hadn't figured it out in 7.0 yet.

Are there other advantages besides Spam Control and a popup blocker ?
Maybe reading here I'm seeing the occasional problem, Lol. Having to reinstall everything sure seems like a good way to clean house....

Lots of helpful info in this forum -- thumbs up!

d.

You sure don't hear from the people who have no problem. And, don't fall in the usual trap of thinking that uninstalling the program will fix your problems. I can almost guarantee that it will not help, because everything which drives the program is located in the profiles.
There is no way to activate popup controls in 7.0. 7.01 was the first one to offer that capability in your Preferences|Privacy and Security.
As for 7.02 not working with certain add-ons which I forgot to mention, I can say that it worked well, until new versions came out, so 7.02 is becoming obsolete in some way, as 7.1 is as well as compared with the more advanced Mozillas. A great add-on is http://prefbar.mozdev.org which offers many conveniences, including User Agent switching.
Finally the correct link to mozdev is: http://mozdev.org/
No www as it is the case for this site, as well.

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[Andrew T.]

In terms of features and technology, Netscape 7.1 is definately superior to its Netscape 7.0x forebear...in addition to add-on and extension compatibility, uncountable improvements were made in the four incremental updates to the Mozilla code between the versions these two Netscape releases were respectively based upon (although the image blocker present in Netscape 7.02 was omitted from Netscape 7.1). However, although many are satisfied with Netscape 7.1 and it is capable of offering reasonably stable performance, there are a number of bugs and issues exclusive to that version, particularly the infamous Windows 9x GDI resource leak. Although a workaround is available, that bug alone encouraged me to continue using Netscape 7.02 after Netscape 7.1 was released, until finally switching to Mozilla 1.5.

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[dapple]

Again...your input seriously appreciated

Humm I guess that was sooo 19th century -- 7.1 up and running perfectly so far. Haven't tried importing any data yet so we'll see. Last time (couple a years ago) had to import NS data files (like the Inbox and etc) via a windows mail program (maybe outlook?) what a pain.

Anyway Fulvio said b4 there was no way to activate popup controls in 7.0 ? I found the following info under "How to do a Custom install" .....

"For 7.0 you can install adblocker.xpi stops 99% of popup adds"

I don't know a lot about this stuff, just tossing that one out there

peace,
dapple

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[Don_HH2K]

As for 7.02 not working with certain add-ons which I forgot to mention, I can say that it worked well, until new versions came out, so 7.02 is becoming obsolete in some way, as 7.1 is as well as compared with the more advanced Mozillas. A great add-on is http://prefbar.mozdev.org which offers many conveniences, including User Agent switching.

If I remember correctly, Prefbar worked in NS7.02 as well.

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[Fulvio]

Again...your input seriously appreciated

Humm I guess that was sooo 19th century -- 7.1 up and running perfectly so far. Haven't tried importing any data yet so we'll see. Last time (couple a years ago) had to import NS data files (like the Inbox and etc) via a windows mail program (maybe outlook?) what a pain.

Anyway Fulvio said b4 there was no way to activate popup controls in 7.0 ? I found the following info under "How to do a Custom install" .....

"For 7.0 you can install adblocker.xpi stops 99% of popup adds"

I don't know a lot about this stuff, just tossing that one out there

peace,
dapple

There is no pain in copying a renamed Inbox of 7.0, and paste it it in the new profile.
I may have not been clear. 7.0 did not have a popup blocker, but you install a .xpi file. Starting with 7.01 the Popup blocker became part of the program. I never tried tjhe .xpi, because I think that it handled popup in a non-specific way. With the new settings, you can make exception to some popups. Some bank used to (I don't know if they still do) require a popup.

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[dapple]

>>There is no pain in copying a renamed Inbox of 7.0, and paste it it in the new profile.<<

Well thanks! Couple technical types I know had a problem with this, so I'm trying to figure it out myself. They are unfamiliar with NS and I believe therein lies the problem. It was a bit of a fiasco the last time.


Yeah about popups the program warns some banking sites may be blocked...


~d.

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[Fulvio]

You notice that I said "Renamed". If you rename your Inbox, in the old profile, to, let's say, Oldinbox and copy it, and then Paste it into the account folder of the new Profile, then you will have a separate folder. If you don't, you will overwrite the Inbox, and have no current mail. And, of course, you have to know where is the default location of the profiles, which are not as expected: http://home.att.net/~cherokee67/ns7profloc.html
I have heard of people furiously working with the 4.x User profiles, messing it up, if 4.x was installed. And, you use Windows Explorer, not Outlook.

As for the popus, I don't know if you can make exception to certain sites. But, you can in NS7.1. And, of course, they give you some twenty exception which you don't want. But, they can be removed.

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