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Shark Daddy's new computer

Postby Shark Daddy » Sat 22 May, 2004 9:42 pm

Check it out. I don't have it yet, but I plan on making it sometime this summer. Any thoughts/suggestions?

Case: Antec SLK3700BQE ATX Black
4x5.25, 7x3.5, 350W PS
Mobo: Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
S478, 875P, DDR400, 5PCI, SATA, RAID, 1000LAN, 1394 w/sound
CPU:Intel Pentium 4 2.80E GHz (Prescott)
S478, 800FSB, 1MB cache
RAM: Samsung 512MB PC3200
DDR400 (1 DIMM)
HDD: 2x (I'm setting them up in RAID0) Seagate SATA 80GB
7200RPM, 9MS seek, 8MB cache
Floppy: Some cheap black floppy drive...
Video Card: Asus Radeon 9600XT
128MB, DVI-I VIVO w/TV out
CD-ROM: LG GCR-8523B 52X Black
CD-RW: LG GCE-8525B 52x 32x 32x (wish it were black)
Monitor:Dell 2001FP
20" LCD, 1600 x 1200, 16 ms response time

...plus some mouse/keyboard stuff I'm still thinking about. I own a nice keyboard and I want a nice optical mouse. I plan on putting in Server 2003 or Windows XP Pro. If anybody knows of any deals for any of these, it'd be much appreciated!

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Postby Antony » Sat 22 May, 2004 11:45 pm

wow! nice spec, must cost you a lot.
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Postby Mandrake » Sun 23 May, 2004 1:24 am

I'd rather get a 'Northwood' P4 over a 'Prescott' P4, they run a lot cooler - and there is virtually no difference in speed.
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Postby Shark Daddy » Sun 23 May, 2004 5:50 pm

My computer is going to have enough fans and good airflow that it won't even cough if I overclocked to 3.2GHz or so. With a Prescott, I'm basically investing in the future with new instructions that will be taken advantage of by Longhorn for example. Not only that, but the price is almost the same as a Northwood. I'll be hyperthreading at the cost of speed too, but again, it's worth it.
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Postby Antony » Sun 23 May, 2004 5:58 pm

If I were, I would go for a beautiful solution (if I can afford).

PowerMac G5 dual 2GHz (or dual 3GHz should be available by the end of this US summer.)
Maximum amount of RAM - a massive 8GB of DDR400 RAM.
SuperDrive (or the rumoured SuperDrive Extreme)
Video card: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, (128MB DDR SDRAM)
HDD: 2x 250GB Serial ATA
display: Apple Cinema Display HD 23", it would be better to have two of those.

extras:
an iSight and an iPod
Apple Wireless Keyboard, Apple Wireless Mouse (both bluetooth)
and a set of surround sound speakers if you haven't got one.

Well, my suggestion for you.
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Postby Don_HH2K » Sun 23 May, 2004 6:14 pm

A dual-processor 3GHz 64-bit Mac?!?!? How fast is that compared to a dual-processor 64-bit x86 chip?
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Postby Antony » Mon 24 May, 2004 7:25 pm

dluchini30 wrote:A dual-processor 3GHz 64-bit Mac?!?!? How fast is that compared to a dual-processor 64-bit x86 chip?
Have to wait for the performance benchmarks.

another news
The very big harddrive - new Hitachi desktop hard drive

A very big hard drive (400GB), and very fast (Serial ATA), with a price tag of $400 USD.

Currently the top offering of G5 supports 2x 250GB Serial ATA hard drives. Since Macs uses standard components, it should be no problem to attach the 400GB Serial ATA hard drives.

Serial ATA supports 1.5-Gbps throughput per channel (equivalent to a data rate of 150 MBps).
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Postby Shark Daddy » Mon 24 May, 2004 8:05 pm

I'm having second thoughts about the Dell 2001FP monitor. While it makes me drool, it costs too much in Canada. I may have to resort to a CRT or kruddy LCD.

By the way, I wouldn't touch that Hitachi DeathStar. At this point in time, Serial ATA will do next to nothing in terms of widening bottlenecks. In any case, the best HDD on the market right now are Western Digital's Raptors. 5ms seek time and 10000 RPM can't go wrong. Not to mention the fact that they won't blow up like DeskStars (a.k.a. DeathStars).
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PowerPC to X86

Postby Don_HH2K » Mon 24 May, 2004 8:28 pm

Antony wrote:
dluchini30 wrote:A dual-processor 3GHz 64-bit Mac?!?!? How fast is that compared to a dual-processor 64-bit x86 chip?
Have to wait for the performance benchmarks.


What is the conversion between PowerPC and x86? What I mean is something like "1MHz of PowerPC is equal to <x>MHz of x86".
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Re: PowerPC to X86

Postby Antony » Mon 24 May, 2004 9:00 pm

[img=right]http://sillydog.org/graph/temp/mhzmyth01.jpg[/img]It is hard to compare between them, because it's not just the speed of the clock, but also a number of other factors. Such as giga-flop and velocity engine in G4 chips.

According to Apple's megahertz myth video,

867MHz G4 against 1.7GHz Pentium 4. For the same exact task, G4 took 45 seconds and Pentium 4 took 82 seconds.
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It is said, G4 876MHz is 80% faster than 1.7GHz P4.
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The megahertz myth video chip, 17.1MB, QuickTime movie format.
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Postby Phoenix21692 » Mon 24 May, 2004 9:44 pm

What task was performed when comparing the two processors?
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Postby Mandrake » Mon 24 May, 2004 10:12 pm

And here we see a G4 thrashed by the competition in Adobe Premier and Lightwave 7.5.

It does vary greatly.
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Postby Mandrake » Mon 24 May, 2004 10:18 pm

Shark Daddy wrote:I'm having second thoughts about the Dell 2001FP monitor. While it makes me drool, it costs too much in Canada. I may have to resort to a CRT or kruddy LCD.

By the way, I wouldn't touch that Hitachi DeathStar. At this point in time, Serial ATA will do next to nothing in terms of widening bottlenecks. In any case, the best HDD on the market right now are Western Digital's Raptors. 5ms seek time and 10000 RPM can't go wrong. Not to mention the fact that they won't blow up like DeskStars (a.k.a. DeathStars).


IBM Deskstar's usually have the name DeathStar :) Either way, keep well away from Hitachi, IBM or Fujitsu for hard disks. I have a Western Digital hard disk, and I'm very pleased with it.
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Postby DJGM » Mon 24 May, 2004 11:29 pm

Ahem . . . could we please keep the Mac vs PC discussions in the relevant thread . . . danke schon!
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Postby Shark Daddy » Tue 25 May, 2004 7:44 pm

Elves21692 wrote:What task was performed when comparing the two processors?


Spin generation.

But I digress, as DJ said, this is about our boxen and not about how for some reason Apple tries to make the public think its machines, made for a different target audience, are up to par with the competitive world of PC technology (except for some notable applications). We can continue that discussion in that thread, now that I have your attention :).
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