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[Al]

Delete where you installed it and install Panther from there, or buy a 10.2 verison from eBay.

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[DJGM]

I've finally managed to update this system to Mac OS X 10.1.5. I've applied the Security Update
that's required before installing a Mac OS X 10.1.x update. This time, the HDD volume was not
greyed out, so it actually allowed the installation of the updates. Now, I'm going to attempt
to install XPostFacto, which might just allow me to install Mac OS X 10.3 . . .

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[Al]

Yay!

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[DJGM]

"Yay!" indeed . . .

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[Al]

"Yay!" indeed . . .

I though Panther wasn't supported on thoese computers...
Are you going to use the G3 iMac or the recently installed Panther G3

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[DJGM]

I thought Panther wasn't supported on thoese computers...

It isn't. That's why XPostFacto was created, so that newer Mac OS X versions, can be installed on
older Macintosh systems (such as this beige G3) that are no longer officially supported by Apple.

Are you going to use the G3 iMac or the recently installed Panther G3

Both. Although I wouldn't be at all surprised if I have to use XPostFacto on my G3 iMac to help
me install the next major version of Mac OS X which will be v10.4 Tiger, sometime next year.

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[Antony]

Congratulations. A beige G3 is a G3 at least. Does that G3 come with the standard 10/100 network port?

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[DJGM]

I don't know about the internal network adapter on the beige G3, but having Mac OS X 10.3.7 on it
was fun . . . while it lasted. The system won't boot up now. All I get is a grey screen with a floppy
disk icon in the middle, with a flashing ? on it, while the HDD spins up and spins down, spins up
and spins down, spins up and spins down, but doesn't actually load any part of the OS.

So now I'm back on the PC, until I can work out what the problem is . . .

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[Al]

I think you MAC can't find the OS's required files and I think that screen is a OS 8 thingy

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[DJGM]

Good news . . . the system is back up with Mac OS X 10.3.7 and hopefully it'll stay that way.

More good news . . . because the "daughter card" was not properly seated, I was unable to get
any sound output. Now that I've reseated the card, I now have full sound through the internal
built in speaker, and full stereo sound output from the audio chipset on the "daughter card"
which is now connected up to my hi-fi stereo via an audio jack to stereo composite lead.

Not so good news . . . USB peripherals are not working on the USB2 PCI card I installed, so
for now, I'm stuck with the old style, 1-button mouse, rather than the 2-button USB scroll-
wheel mouse I'd prefer to use. I'm hoping I'll just need to re-install the relevant driver.


Next plan . . . install a HDD with a higher capacity than the 4GB one I'm using now.

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[DJGM]

Ok, here's my latest report - and a problem . . .

I've now installed a spare 10GB (it actually registers as 9.3GB) HDD in this PowerMac G3 system, and after
a lot of time and energy, I've finally got it up and running with Mac OS 10.3.7. Now since Mac OS X cannot
be installed on any partition over 8GB in size on certain (mostly older) machines, I don't think I'll bother
to install any larger HDD on it than the 10GB/9.3GB HDD it now has installed.


The next obstacle, is to transfer close to 2GB worth of files from my main PC, over to this PowerMac G3.
Amongst other things, this includes the Mozilla and Netscape profiles I'm currently using on Windows XP.
(I can't exactly use the internet for this task. I neither have the time, nor the available webspace!)

I have the USB2.0 PCI card installed and working fine. It has a 2 button scrollwheel USB mouse plugged
into it. It also has an external HDD enclosure plugged in to it, that allows a standard internal IDE HDD to
become an external HDD. I also have the 4GB HDD that was originally installed inside my G3 iMac.

Now, my problem is to get it to "mount" on Windows and on Mac OS X. But which filesystem can I use
that will enable either OS to "mount" the HDD? The Macintosh HFS+ filesystem won't work in Windows
and likewise, the Windows native filesystems of FAT32 and NTFS won't work in Mac OS X.

The only other method I can think of for transferring the data, is to have both the Mac and PC running
side by side, and network them both together. Problem is, I don't have enough space on my desk for
two computers and two monitors. nor do I have enough plug sockets in this room.


Any suggestions folks . . . ?

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[Don_HH2K]

DJGM, if the PC that the files are on has a CD burner, you could always put your 2GB of files in an archive that could span multiple CDs, then you could just extract the archives to the other machine. If not, there's always wireless networking. Since they will both read CDFS, you won't have to worry about mounting/partitioning. Or, better yet, if you have a DVD burner and a DVD-ROM drive in the Mac by some off chance, burn a DVD.

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[DJGM]

Although my main PC does a CD-RW drive installed, I don't have any CD-RW discs to hand
at the moment, although I do have one bog standard 700MB CD-R disc (left over from a
pack of ten) which won't quite accomodate all the files. Thanks for your suggestions.

As for having a DVD-RW drive, that is something I'm planning to get sometime in the not
too distant future. Along with an iPod (maybe also an iPod mini as well) a digital camera,
a 17 inch TFT monitor, and maybe (just maybe) a brand spankin' new Mac Mini . . . !


Meanwhile, I've found another way of transferring all 1.92GB of the necessary files from
the PC to the Mac. It involved putting one of the computers in another room, and a very
long length of crossover network cable! A whole 5 metres of it to be precise!

The PowerMac G3 system was temporarily moved into the spare room across the other
end of the landing, and was connected up to the PC, by means of the aforementioned
long length of crossover cable. I configured the PC to PowerMac mini-LAN connection
in much the same way as whenever I've hooked up the PC to my G3 iMac.

Approximately one hour later (give or take a few minutes eitherway) all the necessary
files were transferred to the PowerMac G3, and then the mini-LAN was disconnected,
so I could reconnect this Mac on to the internet, and compile this update!


(In case you're wondering, the crossover cable was borrowed from a friend . . . )

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[DJGM]

Nothing to report, just a couple of photographs of the machine . . .


Here it is, on my (cluttered) computer desk, including the monitor. Picture taken last night:




And here's a close of the front of the system unit, taken just a couple of nights earlier:




Comments . . . ?

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[Mandrake]

It's beige Does your iMac or this PowerMac G3 seem to be faster in normal daily usage?

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