SillyDog701

[DJGM]

It's beige Does your iMac or this PowerMac G3 seem to be faster in normal daily usage?

The PowerMac G3 seems slightly quicker than my G3 iMac, but then the CPU is 33Mhz faster,
and there's 32MB more RAM installed. I recently read on an archived Apple.com page, that
the PowerMac G3 system in question apparently outperformed a 600Mhz Pentium III PC!

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[DJGM]

Meanwhile . . . look what I just won on eBay . . . this will officially mean I'll own more Macs than PC's!

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[Antony]

Meanwhile . . . look what I just won on eBay . . . this will officially mean I'll own more Macs than PC's!

Congratulations on your new member to the DJGM Mac family.

“G3 266 tower with 4gb hard drive, cd drive, 100mb zip drive, floppy drive & 352mb memory.â€

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[DJGM]

The PowerMac G3 mini-tower that I've just acquired via an auction on eBay was delivered last Saturday,
and it's now up and running with Mac OS X 10.3.8. I've cannibalised some parts from the PowerMac G3
desktop unit, such as the 10GB HDD, a stick of RAM, and the USB2.0 expansion card (PCI) so that I
could get this system operational and working as quickly as I possibly could.

A bit risky perhaps, but to be honest bI didn't really fancy a repeat performance of the rigmarole of
installing Mac OS X 10.0, upgrading to 10.1, then running XPostFacto, just to be able install Panther!

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[user5000]

I just received a PowerMac G3 desktop like the one you had DJGM. IIRC same specs as yours, I have 10.3 cd's but when trying to boot the screen shifts a bit to the left and the loader is messed up (By what I can make of it the text says to power off the system.). Will 10.2 full install be the easiest way to get to 10.3? It has 9.2.2 on it currently.

Thanks,

U5000

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[DJGM]

Mac OS X 10.3.x Panther is not supported on the beige PowerMac G3 systems. The Mac OS X Panther CD
is causing a kernel panic on the system, which is why you're seeing the "restart your computer" notice.

You'll need to install a program called XPostFacto in order to get the computer to boot correctly from
the Panther CD. This will work on the copy of Mac OS 9.2.2 that's already installed on the computer.

Also, I strongly recommend having an absolute minimum of 256MB RAM installed, otherwise you'll
find running Mac OS X Panther on that system will be like running through treacle! No fun at all!

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[user5000]

Ok, downloaded, unstuffed and put in applications directory. Rebooted

Following this guide a bit.

http://discussions.info.apple.com/webx? ... 6.68a3cc48

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[user5000]

XPF when choosing Mac OSX it doesn't give me the option to install from cd. Mac OS 9 gives me the option to restart, but neither install from cd. Is there an option I am missing?

EDIT: The only spare RAM is have is pc133 256MB which didn't show up in boot, isn't 128MB sticks the limit? If so it looks like I will have to get 2x128MB sticks in the near future.

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[DJGM]

Insert the Panther CD, and this should show up on the interface of XPostFacto. You should then have the option
within the XPF program to restart the computer from the CD. XPF will have installed a modified bootloader
that will enable the Panther CD to run the Mac OS X installer, as if it were being run on a supported Mac,
and prevents it from crashing out with a kernel panic, covered up by the aforemnetioned restart error.

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[user5000]

Still having problems, trying to get a screenshot of what it looks like, is there anything you think of that is causing XPF to not show install from cd? The first time I run XPF and I chose Mac OS X and then click the left square to close it will popup saying Are you sure you want to install Mac OS X now?, it will restart blah blah and install Mac OS X 10.3 to then all this jibberish So what I am think is do I need to repartition? Or once it does finally get to the 10.3 install part after reboot I will be able to install 10.3 by itself on this hd?

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[DJGM]

If you repartition with Disk Utility, the entire HDD will be formatted, and everything upon it will
be wiped. I think the best thing you should try, is to first install an earlier version of Mac OS X,
that is still supported for installation on that particular model of Mac, such as 10.2 or 10.1.
After that, run the XPostFacto application to get Mac OS X 10.3 Panther to install.

BTW, how big is the HDD on the system in question? If it's still the original 4GB one that was
shipped with the system, then I'd recommend getting a larger capacity HDD. At least 10GB
should be sufficient. Once that 4GB HDD has Mac OS X installed upon it, you'll soon find
it'll get filled very quickly, expecially when (eventually) successfully install Panther.

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[user5000]

that is still supported for installation on that particular model of Mac, such as 10.2 or 10.1.

BTW, how big is the HDD on the system in question? If it's still the original 4GB one that was
shipped with the system, then I'd recommend getting a larger capacity HDD.

Might be getting 10.1 in the near future so can try that method.

Yes 4GB drive, I may have a 10-15GB drive I can put in the beast.. =)

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[DJGM]

Out of curiosity, I took the combo DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive out of my main PC last night
and slotted it into the optical drive bay on the PowerMac G3 tower I purchased via eBay
some several weeks ago. Lo and behold, it works! Well, it sort of half works . . .

Using an app called Patchburn, the machine recognises the drive just as does on the PC.

But (Ain't there always at least one of those?!?) the drive won't play regular video DVD
discs such as movies and the like, due to it not being supported on this system. I'll see
if I can find a third party DVD playing app for that particular purpose

It does however, seem to at least have the ability of reading Mac software DVD's, and
the upshot of that is with the help of the aformentioned XPostFacto, I might just be
able to get Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger installed and running on this old workhorse!

Hopefully, the Apple requirement (on the Tiger box) of Built in FireWire won't be
an actual issue, If I do put a Tiger in the tank of this particular computer . . . !

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[TK19]

Just out of curiosity, can you show the G3s' desktops on the desktop thread?

Thanks in advance!

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[DJGM]

I might just do that . . .

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