SillyDog701

[DJGM]

Does anyone know if it is possible to get Firefox working on 95 OSR2 by simply copying the
necessary dlls into Firefox's folder instead of overwriting existing dlls in the Windows\System
folder? I ask this because I refuse to install any dlls from IE4 or higher in my System
folder due to an extreme hatred of all versions of IE since 4.0.

You will need to copy the relevant system dll files to your windows/system folder in Windows 95 OSR2.

I finally got Firefox working on this installation of Windows 95 OSR2 by copying the URLMON.DLL and SHLWAPI.DLL
files from an installation of Windows 98 Second Edition that has Internet Explorer 6.0 Service Pack 1 installed onto it.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041001 Firefox/0.10.1

[Don_HH2K]

EDIT-- Sorry, didn't notice DJGM's post on this.

Does anyone know if it is possible to get Firefox working on 95 OSR2 by simply copying the necessary dlls into Firefox's folder instead of overwriting existing dlls in the Windows\System folder? I ask this because I refuse to install any dlls from IE4 or higher in my System folder due to an extreme hatred of all versions of IE since 4.0. Thanks in advance if anyone has successfully tried this.

This worked with Netscape 4.xx and Mozilla 0.6. My guess is that it will, since it always used to work, but those are really old versions of software. Chances are, everything's been rewritten since then. You can go ahead and try, the most that it will do is just leave you with useless DLLs in your Firefox folder if it doesn't work.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax)

[David Wonn]

I am certainly willing to try out my proposed method on my own if nobody else has yet tried. Does anyone have a direct link to download OLE32.DLL, OLEAUT32.DLL, SHLWAPI.DLL, and URLMON.DLL (and any others if relevant)? I would prefer version 4.72 of SHLWAPI and URLMON and version 2.30.4265 of OLE32 / OLEAUT32 (or whichever ones are the minimum required). Thanks again.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.7 (compatible; OffByOne; Windows 98) Webster Pro V3.4

[David Wonn]

BTW, I checked that version of URLMON.DLL from dll-files.com, and it seems to be a Swedish version. That site used to be very useful years ago, but it seems to have degraded in quality considerably in recent years.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.7 (compatible; OffByOne; Windows 98) Webster Pro V3.4

[Alice]

For the record, I have no problem installing and running Firefox on my Win95 OSR2 system, and I didn't need to copy any files from Win98 or IE6 or look for any DLL downloads. I DO have an up-to-date Win95 system (including IE5.5sp2).

If Firefox doesn't run on your Win95 system then I would start with the Microsoft (Windows) Library Update (speu.exe) available HERE - That update will get you oleaut32.dll version 2.30.4265 and that may be all you need to get Firefox to run. See:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=28647
OLEAUT 32.DLL:77
and:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213021
Under Win95 no proper OLEAUT32.DLL found during installation(initialisation)
which is a duplicate of bug 197692 mentioned in the mozillazine forum thread.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041001 Firefox/0.10.1

[David Wonn]

I have good news. The brand new Firefox 1.0, released today, works on my Windows 95 OSR2 after replacing just the OLEAUT32.DLL to version 2.40.4277. I swapped a copy of this dll from Windows NT and renamed the old dll. There is one minor glitch, though. The icon in the upper left corner of the window is just the generic Windows icon that is seen in the Start button. Also, Firefox crashed the first time I opened it after replacing the dll. For some reason Firefox wasn't happy until I had at least connected to the Internet. Other than that, it's been smooth so far.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

[beanboy89]

There is one minor glitch, though. The icon in the upper left corner of the window is just the generic Windows icon that is seen in the Start button.

This is a Windows 9x/ME bug. More info and a fix is here...

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

[Alice]

I have good news. The brand new Firefox 1.0, released today, works on my Windows 95 OSR2 after replacing just the OLEAUT32.DLL to version 2.40.4277.

Glad to hear it

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

[SAOIRSE32]

I have an old Windows 95B with 46 MB Ram (IE 5.5 also installed) which I usually run K-Meleon on for the ease and speed, but I downloaded and installed Firefox 1.0 today with no problems and no additional files required. Have only noticed one bookmark import glitch so far.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

[Al]

That is because IE 5.5 already has thoese files, Andrew got the files from a 98 computer with IE 6.0. The import bug is a old dll verison.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041108 Firefox/1.0

[Andrew T.]

That is because IE 5.5 already has thoese files, Andrew got the files from a 98 computer with IE 6.0.

I had needed to copy newer versions of the files [tt]URLMON.DLL[/tt] and [tt]SHLWAPI.DLL[/tt] from a PC with Windows 98 SE and IE 6.0 back in June when the Mozilla Firefox 0.9 Release Candidate was current. I do not think that the latest version of Mozilla Firefox, 1.0, requires these files to run. I tried removing the files from their default location and found that Firefox could still run without any problem afterwards.

To summarize:

The biggest obstacle to Win95 users in running Mozilla Firefox, thus, only remains the possibility of an outdated (pre-2.30.4265) OLEAUT32.DLL file, an issue that also affects users of the Mozilla application suite and/or Windows 98 RTM.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

[izanbardprince]

Congratulations, DJGM!

Perhaps it's just as well that Mozilla.org's "official" system requirements for Firefox omit Windows 95, considering that it requires a convoluted assortment of system files to run that may not necessarily be present on a typical Windows 95 installation, and gives headaches if you don't have them! But it certainly can run under the right circumstances.

Who uses Windows 95 anyway?

It doesn't even support the bulk of hardware thats been made since 1999-ish anyway.

Didn't the original (non-vendor) version have a 2 gigabyte hard drive limit anyway?

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

[Fulvio]

Who uses Windows 95 anyway?

It doesn't even support the bulk of hardware thats been made since 1999-ish anyway.

Didn't the original (non-vendor) version have a 2 gigabyte hard drive limit anyway?

You will be surprised. Some people are still using Win3.1 with machines from the Iron Age. But, the emphasis is on "some". The same people should expect to work hard to get what they want, and it appears that some are.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217

[Al]

Most 95 users like Andrew hate IE, so that is why they stick with 95. Some people still use NT3x

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041108 Firefox/1.0

[Andrew T.]

I maintain that as far as operating systems for the PC go, Windows 95 OSR2 works the way I want, does every single thing I want it to, and has a user interface that I prefer to the IE-integrated monstrosities on Windows 98, 2000 and subsequent versions.

The 2GB hard drive limit was overcome by the FAT32 file system, which was introduced in the OSR2 version of Windows 95.

Most 95 users...stick with 98.

Al, that statement does not appear to make sense.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0