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[mujilakama]

Using IE, the MIDIs which are part of my Geocities webpage play as they should when the webpage is opened. A few years back when I used Netscape 4.7, these MIDIs played no problem. But with my present Netscape 7.1 they do not. I get this message when I access my Geocities page: “The file is of type audio/mid (Winamp media file) and Netscape does not know how to handle this file type. What should Netscape do with this file? Open it with Winamp, Save it…â€

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[Don_HH2K]

My guess: you have a corrupt pluginreg.dat file. Since it looks like you're using Windows XP, let me give you the Windows XP directions.

Open up a Windows Explorer (not Internet Explorer) window, go to [tt]c:\Documents and Settings\(your Windows profile name)\Application Data\Mozilla[/tt]. You might need to type that in my hand if you don't have your system set to show system files. Now right-click on pluginreg.dat, select Rename, and rename it to pluginreg_1.dat. Netscape should start up normally and rebuild the file. Now go and see if your plugins work.

If that doesn't work and it crashes the browser, rename pluginreg_1.dat back to pluginreg.dat and open Netscape.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.1; Linux)

[Fulvio]

Don,
it will be no help here, but thanks to your suggestion of copying the np Java files, I got Mozilla 1.7.5 to work, but no go for NS7.2.

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[Alice]

To answer you question about Java version 1.4.2_06, it works perfectly fine on my system using Windows XP with Firefox 1.0 Netscape 7.2 and Mozilla 1.7.5. Check your installed java plugins in Netscape Help > about:plugins and look through this thread:
http://sillydog.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7998
How do you deal with Java plugins files.

However, your original question was about midi files on your Geocities webpage. Do you have a link to your page? That might help clear things up.

The message you received..." “The file is of type audio/mid (Winamp media file) and Netscape does not know how to handle this file type."....indicates that you have no midi plugin... if you did, the file would open automatically in the midi player.

I use the Crescendo Plugin so that I can hear embedded midi (background sound) on webpages in Mozilla-based browsers.

Here's an earlier thread with lots more information, including a sound test page link:
http://sillydog.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6625
Wav and Midi

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[mujilakama]

Thanks to all of you who responded with advice. I appreciate it!
I'm new to SillyDog. I hope I am sending this reply message to where Alice (and all others!) can see it.

I took Alice’s advice - and installed Crescendo. Now, after a year or more of having this no-midi-playing-capability problem, the MIDIs now play! Thank you. H o w e v e r . . .they play now in Netscape...but not in Mozilla Firefox. I say this because earlier today I downloaded Mozilla Firefox (since MIDIs play fine on my son’s computer - where he uses Mozilla Firefox).

So, what would you suggest/what can I do to get the MIDIs to play in Firefox on my computer? Can we get Crescendo to recognize/work with/play MIDIs through Firefox? Firefox still gives me the message that I need an “additional plug inâ€

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

[Fulvio]

I am still partly lost with Java, although the plugins file are in place Mozilla1.7.5 and firefox1.0 work, and Netscape7.2 does not.
As for the mid file, use Alice's link. I don't know if there is a Crescendo plugin which works for Firefox, but, if you go in Quicktime 6.5.1, you should be able to select in Quicktime preferences|Browser settings|MIME settings|audio|select MIDI. It worked for me in Firefox, although I was getting a "duh?" before.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041217

[Alice]

[quote="mujilakama"] So, what would you suggest/what can I do to get the MIDIs to play in Firefox on my computer? Can we get Crescendo to recognize/work with/play MIDIs through Firefox? Firefox still gives me the message that I need an “additional plug inâ€

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[Fulvio]

Alice,
as you may have seen from my comments that I was doing ok with Mozilla1.7.5, but not with Netscape7.2.
I will set aside the Java problem, but for Crescendo, it is quite confusing. The Website you gave shows two distinct file downloads, for Mozilla and Netscape. But, both files have the same name. Mozilla1.7.5 and Netscape7.2 were present when I downloaded and installed the Crescendo for Mozilla. However, the files were present only in Mozilla. I did not attempt to copy the files to the Netscape7.2 plugins folder.
May be I have a sick NS7.2, but I will try to get the file earmarked for Netscape. If it works, then there must be two different files.

Correction: I downloaded the file for Netscape, and it came out without the .exe, but, renaming did the job. I, then, proceeded to "install" (Crescendo is not really installed, that I can see), but I was given only one choice, i.e. to install in Communicator. So, most likely that was the problem. so I changed the path, and, everything seemed ok. The files were downloaded in the correct folder. Then, all hell broke lose, because I must have still had JetAudio to play midi files, and Quicktime had been selected for Firefox. When, I deselected in both music programs, it seems that NS7.2 is using Crescendo. But, firefox lost it. But, after copying all the files, it tests ok in Firefox.
The moral of the story is that the more program one has, the more problems can be encountered.
If anyone wants to know how do things wrong first, check with me.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; AOL 9.0; Windows NT 5.1; BCD2000; .NET CLR 1.1.4322)

[mujilakama]

Thank you, again, Alice. What I did is this, following your advice: I had already downloaded Crescendo (apparently to a Netscape Plugins folder since the MIDIs played successfully through Netscape), so now I once more downloaded Crescendo (it takes only about a minute to do from start to finish) - this time having it install in the C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\Plugins folder.

Happy Ending: I can now have MIDIs played in both Netscape and Firefox!

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[mujilakama]

Thanks again to Alice, Fulvio, Don, and others for your assistance in getting my computer to play MIDIs.

I have a follow-up question: Normally what device/player would be playing MIDIs. My son doesn’t have any problem (on his computer) having MIDIS played (and so he has not had to download Crescendo as I have). He thinks that on his computer it is the NVIDIA-R nForce ™ Audio player (which comes with all Windows computers, I believe - it is what you get when you click on the Volume icon - or when you do to Control Panel: Sounds and Audio Devices) which plays MIDIs on his computer (and on others’ computers). I’ve made sure that none of the volume controls are muted and that all of them are turned up to the maximum position on my computer. So, in summary: what is it that usually would be playing MIDIs for you?

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[Alice]

Earlier, when I said "midi player" I meant a midi plugin such as Crescendo or the Quicktime media player plugin. You're asking about hardware devices (sound card or sound device on the motherboard) when you mention audio devices shown in Control Panel.

Each system is different. For example, on my Dell Dimension 8300, which I bought with an added PCI Creative SoundBlaster Live 5.1 sound card, in Control Panel, Sounds & Audio Devices, Audio Tab, Under Midi Music Playback, my default device is the Creative SB Live Synthesizer, and I have the options to select a Creative SB Live External Midi device (for Midi keyboard I guess?) and the Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synthesizer which I imagine would have poorer performance compared to the sound card synthesizer.

You'd be better off following up on a Windows Hardware or Multimedia forum.

Glad I could help

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[Alice]

for Crescendo,
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I downloaded the file for Netscape, and it came out without the .exe, but, renaming did the job.

Maybe you have something going on in Helper Applications, possibly an entry for "application/octet-stream"? If you see one, delete it, but you shouldn't in Netscape 7.2/Mozilla 1.7.xx unless maybe it's a carry-over from an old profile. I tested the link and that's what mimetype is given in the "opening" box. It downloaded fine here, as c51nnt.exe (WinNT/2k/XP version for either Netscape or Mozilla)

I, then, proceeded to "install" (Crescendo is not really installed, that I can see), but I was given only one choice, i.e. to install in Communicator. So, most likely that was the problem. so I changed the path, and, everything seemed ok. The files were downloaded in the correct folder. Then, all hell broke lose, because I must have still had JetAudio to play midi files, and Quicktime had been selected for Firefox. When, I deselected in both music programs, it seems that NS7.2 is using Crescendo. But, firefox lost it. But, after copying all the files, it tests ok in Firefox.
The moral of the story is that the more program one has, the more problems can be encountered.
If anyone wants to know how do things wrong first, check with me.

I think Danceman mentioned that, too, needing to disable the midi mimetype in Quicktime.

I know nothing about JetAudio. Got a link?

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