SillyDog701

[Pu7o]

yes, but having netscape default to IE, even if only on trusted sites, is really bad... probably most webpages will be:

Best rendered with Microsoft Internet Explorer or Netscape 8. If using Netscape 8, please set this website as trusted.

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[Umachines]

Hi again!. I got the pre-beta from some eastern site . I like the new theme, It's more 'Netscape', you know. One of the best improvements is the rendering engine manager; I still think this is the best feature for an eventual release, and I see the development team is focusing on this too. Another important feature is the form manager, I just discovered it while making this post itself. On the other hand, I feel the theme interface a bit slow, when switching tabs, maximizing, etc. Test the browser in a Celeron(not Prescott)/Duron system to see my point. But this one is more than I expected after proto2.

Netscape 8 can turn in the browser for advanced users. This can be good or bad, depending on marketing strategy.

Saludos, guys!

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[Hendikins]

Rant

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[Antony]

Rant

[quote="Hendikins"]* Why can I not have separate reload and stop buttons? This is perhaps my most hated “featureâ€

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[Hendikins]

Rant

[quote="Hendikins"]* Why can I not have separate reload and stop buttons? This is perhaps my most hated “featureâ€

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[Antony]

Rant

[quote="Hendikins"]* Why can I not have separate reload and stop buttons? This is perhaps my most hated “featureâ€

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[Hendikins]

Rant

[quote="Hendikins"]* Why can I not have separate reload and stop buttons? This is perhaps my most hated “featureâ€

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[Don_HH2K]

The convention of Back/Forward/Reload/Stop - which goes back what, 10 years?

Further. It was in Lynx or whatever my family were using in 1989 with The World's shell access on a VT100 emulator.

OK, personally, I have to agree with Hendikins here. I don't like the fact that they've ditched the two standalone Stop/Reload buttons and merged them into one. What if I want to reload while a page is still loading? Click twice, not once. OK, that isn't too bad unless I was some new extreme of lazy, but still you have to. As well, search engines should be able to be added, the Go button and search bar should be able to be taken out, and I do wish that there was a rebranded edition of Thunderbird.
...but, that's just me speaking.

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[James]

I've a few questions based upon some of Antony's remarks.

- will Netscape 8 have an email client or will it be solely a browser?
- will Netscape 8 contain patches to all the vulnerabilities found by Secunia that currently renders earlier versions of Netscape (i.e. 7.2) unsafe for browsing?
- who exactly is funding this new browser and for what purposes?
- has there been any long-range plans for Netscape revealed to date or is this simply a one-time development and we'll need to "stayed tuned" to see what develops (if anything)?

Thanks.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0

[Andrew T.]

I must say that Hendikins makes some very good points, and I agree with most of his concerns and complaints.
I would mention some problems of my own I have with Netscape 8.0 pre-beta software, but most of them have already been mentioned already, so I will refrain.

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[Fulvio]

- will Netscape 8 have an email client or will it be solely a browser?
- will Netscape 8 contain patches to all the vulnerabilities found by Secunia that currently renders earlier versions of Netscape (i.e. 7.2) unsafe for browsing?
- who exactly is funding this new browser and for what purposes?
- has there been any long-range plans for Netscape revealed to date or is this simply a one-time development and we'll need to "stayed tuned" to see what develops (if anything)?

Thanks.

1.Netscape8 will be based on Firefox, which is just a browser, and it has a link to the default mail.
2. I can't think of any patches ever issued. It is a new thing or nothing.
3. AOL is contracting the work out, but I am not sure why. AOL had been developing a browser only program, based on IE. I tested, and it did not go anywhere, by itself, but had a number of features found in the gecko based programs. AOL, also, had worked on an external mail application, called AOL Communicator. Then, they went from that program which talked to Netscape, to another, forgettable, mail client, which was talking to Outlook or Outlook Express.
AOL is lousy as a browser, and AOL users use IE, and many people use OUtlook or Outlook Express, so you should see the point.

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[Antony]

The convention of Back/Forward/Reload/Stop - which goes back what, 10 years?

And once it was there, they aren't allowed to improve it or redesign?

The product (and as a result, the functionality) is based on Firefox. Merely linking to an explaination of what it is there for.

And once you legally borrowed something from Mozilla or Firefox, you must stuck with it for the rest of the product's life? They are not allowed to design or implement something of their own?

Filtering ads doesn't de-clutter my browser UI.

That's more of unethical issue involved.
Now, not just ads you are blocking (translate, ripping websites), you also want to destroy the browser interface?

Chrome == browser UI in this case. A 1 line change to an XML file (or is it a Javascript file? Can't remember...) is all that is required. Of course, I'm probably not allowed to do it myself, because of some decompiling clause in the EULA or something.

I know what chrome is. I am pretty sure you know how to get things changes.

Again, a 1 line fix to the program. My site is a community resource, not an official one, so either make it official (and pay me for working on it), indicate that it is an unofficial/community resource, or don't link to it.

What is your point? Are you really not happy Netscape linked to your site? Of if there's a requirement to link to your site? Please make it clear.

Why would it be called Netscape 8 if it wasn't intended to replace Netscape 7?

Not necessary. To replace Netscape 7 does not indicate they must use Thunderbird. They own the name Netscape, they are free to call it Netscape 8.

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[Andrew T.]

The convention of Back/Forward/Reload/Stop - which goes back what, 10 years?

And once it was there, they aren't allowed to improve it or redesign?.

I hardly consider deviating from this convention to be an improvement.

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[Antony]

The convention of Back/Forward/Reload/Stop - which goes back what, 10 years?

And once it was there, they aren't allowed to improve it or redesign?.

I hardly consider deviating from this convention to be an improvement.

Combining Reload and Stop is nothing new, it was there during the early preview release of Netscape Communicator.

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[Don_HH2K]

Combining Reload and Stop is nothing new, it was there during the early preview release of Netscape Communicator.

Which version of Communicator? I think I used all of the 4.0 betas, was it the 4.5 betas (since I didn't have 95 to run them)? If it was indeed such a topic in the betas, then it should be a sign that they probably received negative feedback on such, and probably wouldn't want to do so again.

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