Terri Schiavo-Live or Die?

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Postby Al » Sat 02 Apr, 2005 9:07 pm

From what I read from Wikipedia, Vatican City is not a country
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Postby Ron Williams » Sat 02 Apr, 2005 9:13 pm

jsjag wrote:We are a country with three branches, each equal in power.


I stated that on page three but Antony or other members have posted other things and have failed to give any reason that the courts are above the other two supposedly EQUAL branches.
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Postby Antony » Sun 03 Apr, 2005 8:50 am

The story so far
Mrs. Terri Schiavo, 41 died on Thursday, 13 days after the removal of the feeding tube that had kept her alive since 1990.
The autopsy was completed Friday. Results won't be available in several weeks.
Mrs. Terri Schiavo's body was cremated on Saturday. The cremation was carried out according to a court order issued on Tuesday.
Mr. Michael Schiavo is required to tell Mrs. Terri Schiavo's parents if any memorial services he plans and the location of his wife's ashes are interred.

(from The New York Times)
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Postby Lorraine » Tue 05 Apr, 2005 11:49 pm

Antony wrote
Allow me to re-quote:
"It's odd that conservative Christians would be making this claim," said Christopher Schroeder, director of the public law program at Duke University. "You can find biblical passages that say once you have a union like this, the union's all that matters. The parents drop out of the picture."

Antony re-quoted this from something, I forget what.
I am tired and it's bedtime so don't want to start this over.

I think that the above quote by Christopher Shroeder which was re quoted by Antony,is correct, as long as the parties involved keep their vows, which were made in their marriage ceremony.

Michael Shiavo had another woman, two children and for all intents and purposes, I don't think he should have had any say in the matter at all. He was in fact, an adulterer.
Mr and Mrs Shindler should have been the ones to decide Terri's care. That's my opinion.
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Postby Vlax » Wed 06 Apr, 2005 12:48 pm

if terri dies, her parent's will be relieved and her husband will be able to live the rest of his life, feeling that he betrayed her.
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Postby Antony » Wed 06 Apr, 2005 8:47 pm

Vlax wrote:if terri dies, her parent's will be relieved and her husband will be able to live the rest of his life, feeling that he betrayed her.
True, and Terri Schiavo has died.
Her parents should take a break now. The 15 years of watching their brain damaged daughter is over now.
(It would not have been 15 year, had them not against the decision.)
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Postby Lorraine » Thu 07 Apr, 2005 2:55 pm

The last few replies, as well as the supposed husband of Terri Shiavo.
are making me sick . I advise everyone to get an
Infirmity Mandate and make the executor "Your Mother."
Nobody knows what was going on in her brain at the time of her death. Not even the doctors in
Neuroscience.
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Postby jsjag » Thu 07 Apr, 2005 4:20 pm

piranarew wrote:
jsjag wrote:We are a country with three branches, each equal in power.


I stated that on page three but Antony or other members have posted other things and have failed to give any reason that the courts are above the other two supposedly EQUAL branches.


There have been no reasons given because a lot of people "think" that US courts have more powers than the other two branches. There is a mind set in the US that if a court tells you to bend over....you must bend over even if it is against the US Constitution. The judges take an oath to uphold the Constitution but constantly fail. Take the point where a US Supreme Court Judges used World Court opinions on US domestic issues and one judge states that we must start looking to the World Court for opinions. They should and by law can, be impeached.

Of course that will never happen because the Republic as it stood for 200 years was quietly taken over some time ago and it started in the schools. But of course that’s where it always starts, isn’t it?
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Postby KRTeagle » Fri 08 Apr, 2005 1:12 am

jsjag wrote:
piranarew wrote:
jsjag wrote:We are a country with three branches, each equal in power.


I stated that on page three but Antony or other members have posted other things and have failed to give any reason that the courts are above the other two supposedly EQUAL branches.


There have been no reasons given because a lot of people "think" that US courts have more powers than the other two branches. There is a mind set in the US that if a court tells you to bend over....you must bend over even if it is against the US Constitution. The judges take an oath to uphold the Constitution but constantly fail. Take the point where a US Supreme Court Judges used World Court opinions on US domestic issues and one judge states that we must start looking to the World Court for opinions. They should and by law can, be impeached.

Of course that will never happen because the Republic as it stood for 200 years was quietly taken over some time ago and it started in the schools. But of course that’s where it always starts, isn’t it?


I agree with all you say! 3 branches, equal power. I think that if you abuse it you should lose it. judges should be elected to terms, not chosen for life sentances.
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Postby Ron Williams » Fri 08 Apr, 2005 3:10 pm

jsjag wrote:There have been no reasons given because a lot of people "think" that US courts have more powers than the other two branches.

HMM its not me but the president came back to washington to sign a bill to let her live, theres one branch. The house of representatives passed the bill, 203-58 in favor. so theres your second branch. Now one branch decided they did not like it and ended it. So they do have more power than two branches. Now with that I dont "think" that US courts have more powers, I know.

KRTeagle wrote:I agree with all you say! 3 branches, equal power. I think that if you abuse it you should lose it. judges should be elected to terms, not chosen for life sentances.

The only judges who serve a term of life a supreme court justices. The reason for this is so they rule fairly instead of what will get them re-elected.
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Postby Lorraine » Fri 08 Apr, 2005 11:52 pm

piranarew wrote

The only judges who serve a term of life a supreme court justices. The reason for this is so they rule fairly instead of what will get them re-elected.


It makes no difference what these Judges think or say,
they don't listen as they are usually nodding off while they are supposed to be listening.

It was just a circuit court judge who decided Terri's fate in the first place.
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Postby Ron Williams » Sat 09 Apr, 2005 2:48 am

Lorraine, I was correcting his error as he was implying that all judges serve terms of life.
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Postby Antony » Mon 18 Apr, 2005 3:10 am

The news coverage changed the focus since the death of the Late Pope.

A poll result of 1,010 U.S. adults surveyed by telephone by Harris Interactive between 5th to 10th April, 2005 shows majority of people approve Mr. Michael Schiavo's behaviour (55 to 39), however a similar percentage also approves the behaviour of Mrs. Terri Schiavo's parents. In other words, most people showed sympathy to both sides.

It is also interesting to note that the poll also shows most people disapprove of how President Bush, Governor Bush, and the Congress handled the issue.

Detail of this survey can be found at Terri Schiavo Case: Most US Adults Approve of How Both Husband and Parents Behaved (Medical News Today 18th April 2005) and The Terri Schiavo Case: Paradoxically Most U.S. Adults Approve of How Both Her Husband and Her Parents Behaved (Harris Interactive, 15th April 2005)
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Postby Antony » Mon 09 May, 2005 10:53 pm

Recent news report that Michael Schiavo (Terri's husband) failed to inform Terri's family about the location of Terri's ashes. This is against court order.

(I don't think you need me to provide reference, but if needed, I'd be happy to do so.)
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