SillyDog701

[DJGM]

You certainly were fast. Mac OS X 10.4 was only released today!

By comparison, I don't think I have never used, let alone bought
a copy of, any major release of an operating system (Mac OS
or Windows) until after it's a year or more old.

By the time Mac OS X 10.4 is more than a year old, it's likely that Apple will have announced
a date for the release of Mac OS X 10.5. Now that the Tiger has finally been released from it's
cage, the boffins at Cupertino have probably already started planning it's eventual successor!

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[Mandrake]

MacOS Tiger has '200 stunning new features', whilst that certainly sounds impressive - what exactly constitues a feature? Well it seems that Paul Thurrot has had a quick look at the 200 features in Tiger:

How does one feature (Dashboard) get counted as 15 features? Simple. Just count every single Dashboard widget as a separate feature! Here are all the Dashboard-related "features":

Address Book Dashboard Widget
Calculator Widget
Dashboard Keyboard Activation Preference
Dashboard
Calendar Widget
Dictionary Widget
Flight Tracker Widget
iTunes Widget
Phone Book Widget
Sticky Note Widget
Stock Widget
Translation Widget
Unit Converter Widget
Weather Widget
World Clock Widget

Seriously, they list "Dashboard Keyboard Activation Preference" as a feature that's separate from Dashboard.

Spotlight is even worse. In this case, that one feature gets counted as 17 individual features:

Spotlight Contact
Document Properties (adds meta data for Spotlight to find)
Spotlight in Open/Save Panels
Spotlight Menu Hot Key
Spotlight Menu
Spotlight Service
Spotlight Support for Network Homes
Spotlight Window Hot Key
Spotlight Window
Metadata Info & Preview (view meta data that can be found by Spotlight)
Smart Folders
Spotlight Find
Spotlight Results Group View
Spotlight Font Search
Spotlight Search in Mail
Spotlight Preferences
Spotlight Command Line Tools

My favorites here, of course, are the hot keys. That's hilarious: You know they're cheating when a "dedicated keyboard shortcut" is called out as an individual feature. Twice.

This is Apple marketing, to the extreme. Seems nearly as bad as Linspire 5.0 - that contains 1200 improvements!

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[Antony]

Well it seems that Paul Thurrot has had a quick look at the 200 features in Tiger:

any link to Paul Thurrot's article?

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[EddiePaxil]

MacOS Tiger has '200 stunning new features', whilst that certainly sounds impressive - what exactly constitues a feature? Well it seems that Paul Thurrot has had a quick look at the 200 features in Tiger:

How does one feature (Dashboard) get counted as 15 features? Simple. Just count every single Dashboard widget as a separate feature! Here are all the Dashboard-related "features":

Address Book Dashboard Widget
Calculator Widget
Dashboard Keyboard Activation Preference
Dashboard
Calendar Widget
Dictionary Widget
Flight Tracker Widget
iTunes Widget
Phone Book Widget
Sticky Note Widget
Stock Widget
Translation Widget
Unit Converter Widget
Weather Widget
World Clock Widget

Seriously, they list "Dashboard Keyboard Activation Preference" as a feature that's separate from Dashboard.

Spotlight is even worse. In this case, that one feature gets counted as 17 individual features:

Spotlight Contact
Document Properties (adds meta data for Spotlight to find)
Spotlight in Open/Save Panels
Spotlight Menu Hot Key
Spotlight Menu
Spotlight Service
Spotlight Support for Network Homes
Spotlight Window Hot Key
Spotlight Window
Metadata Info & Preview (view meta data that can be found by Spotlight)
Smart Folders
Spotlight Find
Spotlight Results Group View
Spotlight Font Search
Spotlight Search in Mail
Spotlight Preferences
Spotlight Command Line Tools

My favorites here, of course, are the hot keys. That's hilarious: You know they're cheating when a "dedicated keyboard shortcut" is called out as an individual feature. Twice.

This is Apple marketing, to the extreme. Seems nearly as bad as Linspire 5.0 - that contains 1200 improvements!

That's how Paul Thurrot lists it not Apple. Here is how Apple lists everything involved with Tiger on their site.

Applications

Address Book 4
Automator
Calculator 4
Chess
Dashboard
Dictionary
DVD Player 4.5
Font Book 2
iCal 2
iChat AV 3
Image Capture 3
Internet Connect
iSync 2
iTunes 4.7.1
Mail 2
Preview 3
QuickTime 7 Player
Safari 2
Sherlock
Stickies
System Preferences
TextEdit

Utilities

Activity Monitor
AirPort Admin Utility
AirPort Setup Assistant
Audio MIDI Setup
Bluetooth File Exchange
ColorSync Utility
Console
Digital Color Meter
Directory Access
Disk Utility
Faxing
FileVault
Grab
Grapher
Installer
Keychain Access
Migration Assistant
NetInfo Manager
Network Utility
ODBC Administrator
Printer Setup Utility
Setup Assistant
System Profiler
Terminal
VoiceOver Utility
X11

Key Technologies

AppleScript
Aqua
Bonjour
CDSA security architecture
Cocoa, Carbon and Java
ColorSync
Core Audio
Core Image
H.264
Inkwell
OpenGL
PDF
Quartz Extreme
QuickTime 7
64-bit computing
Spotlight
Sync
Unicode 4
Universal Access
UNIX based
USB and FireWire peripheral support
Xcode 2
Xgrid

Languages:

English, Japanese, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Dutch, Swedish, Danish, Norwegian, Finnish, Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese, Korean, Brazilian Portuguese

Requirements

Macintosh computer with a PowerPC G3, G4 or G5 processor
Built-in FireWire
256MB of RAM
3GB of available hard disk space (4GB if you install the developer tools)

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[DJGM]

TheRegister.co.uk has published an in-depth review of Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger . . .

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/27 ... osx_tiger/

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[Mandrake]

No, I'm dead serious, here is Apple's full list of the "200 new features".

You can see that Dashboard and Spotlight comprise over 30 features. Paul Thurrott wrote that on his blog here - the title of the post is "Tiger math".

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[Antony]

No, I'm dead serious, here is Apple's full list of the "200 new features".

Apple's never said 200 new applications.

And don't forget, if you upgrade from Jaguar, you will also have 150 or 200 new features available in Panther on top of 200 new features for Tiger.

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[Antony]

Apple will sell 2 millionth copy of Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" during WWDC, according to Steve Jobs in the Keynote.

Congratulations to Apple and the success of Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger".

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[DJGM]

I've just had a chat with a couple of the staff members at the Apple Store in London (where I am
right now) about installation of Mac OS X Tiger on an older Mac, such as my Bondi Blue G3 iMac.
They advised that if an attempt is made to install Tiger on that particular Mac model, without
updating the firmware, it could actually frazzle the processor and/or the mainboard.

Pretty scary! (If that's true of course.) It looks more and more likely that the next operating
system to be installed on my trusty old G3 iMac will be a PPC version of Ubuntu Linux!

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[Antony]

Pretty scary! (If that's true of course.) It looks more and more likely that the next operating
system to be installed on my trusty old G3 iMac will be a PPC version of Ubuntu Linux

Oh! No.

Panther was a great operating system... don't dump it.

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[DJGM]

Trouble is, my iMac has only 256MB RAM installed, and after less than an hour use, it starts
to get quite sluggish. I know that I could upgrade it with more RAM, but on this particular
model of iMac, it is one hell of a struggle to get the logic board section out to install the
new RAM, and even more difficult to get it in back in without dislodging something!

I very nearly dislodged the CPU during the last RAM upgrade! Which was scary!


Realistically though, it looks increasingly unlikely that Mac OS X Tiger can be installed
on my old iMac, so it's likely that it'll either be replaced with Ubuntu Linux at some
point, or set up to dual boot between Mac OS X Panther and Ubuntu Linux.


Either that, or I'll just trade the whole thing in for a B+W PowerMac G3 tower!

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[Antony]

DJGM, getting a Mac mini would be a better choice then spending more on your current iMac, in my opinion.

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[DJGM]

I do plan to get a Mac mini eventually . . .

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[Mandrake]

I do plan to get a Mac mini eventually . . .

Wait until next year, when you can get one with an Intel processor in it.

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[Antony]

I do plan to get a Mac mini eventually . . .

Wait until next year, when you can get one with an Intel processor in it.

There's nothing wrong with current PowerPC processor.

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