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Postby Fulvio » Sat 14 May, 2005 10:01 pm

Most people want to set up the program and personal data in XP, and swap files with the old Win98 file/folder. This is not a good idea, simply because what you got on your CD will not be up-to-date.
I came to XP, from Win98 about one years ago, and I backed up my profiles on CDs. I, then, copied the folders from the CD to a storage folder.
By then, I had up and running mail, but only with the most recent stuff. So, I made a copy of the two files which are of greatest interest, i.e. Inbox, and Sent (don't bother with the equivalent .msf files), and renamed them, like to Archive, or oldinbox and olsent. Now, I can safely copy the Archive file, or whatever you named it, and paste it into the new XP profile.
You must do this with Netscape closed, and when you open it you wiill be able to see an additional subfolder called whatever you named it. And, if you look again in your XP profile/ .slt/mail/account you will see a new .msf or header file.
The beauty of this mail format is that you can bring in a file from a totally different program, and be able to utilize it. But, you don't want to drag and drop or move. Something is bound to go wrong, and you have nothing left.
And, you don't want to paste a file with the same name, because the old one will overwrite a new one.

As for the program you mention, I don't see that it could be worth that much. Definitely not for an individual.
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Postby Alice » Sun 15 May, 2005 5:52 am

ezstock wrote: Okay, I'm back, I have 2, one is for Firefox. The other has that . . . . slt folder which gets me down to my charter mail. How I need to read and do the http://home.att.net/~cherokee67/ns7lostprofwinxp.html . Should make it from here. If I have your email, paypal, I can send something for helping.

Here again, the link above tells a person how to locate lost email,,, my folders are not there from old 98, least that is what I figure. They Inbox, Drafts, Trash, Sent and so on are 0 size. Other folders that I had at one time are not listed. I'm thinking I need to go get those folders from my backup disk an install,, nothing to lose, right? :roll:

Here's my suggestion, since you obviously know what you're doing, right? ;)

If you have a recent backup of your C:\Windows\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles"profilename"\xxxxxxxx.SLT\MAIL folder, from when you had Win98, then what I would do, to make life easier, would be to COPY that entire MAIL folder to an easy-to-find location such as D:\Netscape. Then open Netscape Mail and go to the account settings, server settings and point the Local Directory field for each mail account to the appropriate folder. After you restart Netscape, all your old mail should appear, for each account, since Netscape will be using the changed "Local Directory".

For example, for a johndoe@earthlink.net account, in the Netscape mail's server settings, use the Local Directory BROWSE button to select the D:\Netscape\MAIL\pop.earthlink.net folder, which is what Netscape will then use. If you have multiple mailaccount folders for the same mailserver, for example,
pop.earthlink.net
pop.earthlink-1.net
pop.earthlink-2.net
...you'll have to figure out which is which, by opening each folder in Windows Explorer and viewing the mail files (Inbox Sent etc) in a text reader. In general, the higher the number in those numbered folders, the more recent the account. Netscape and Mozilla create a new numbered folder every time you create a new account with the same mailserver name.

Note:
If you already have current mail for the old mail account(s), copy it to the special Local Folders account before closing Netscape, then move the current mail back to the correct folder after reopening netscape. If you also have saved mail in the old Local Folders special account that you want to restore, then change the Local Directory field for "Local Folders" last, moving any curent mail to a different account beforehand.


Another option, if you want to transfer all the profile data, would be to replace the contents of the WinXP .SLT folder, for example,
C:\Documents and Settings\ezstock\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\xxxxxxx.SLT
.....with the contents of the backed-up xxxxxxxx.SLT folder, as suggested here:
http://ilias.ca/netscape/profilefaq/#transferring
If you're restoring from Netscape 7.2, just create a new profile, close Netscape, and replace the contents of the new SLT folder with the contents of your old one. (Be sure not to change the name of the new SLT folder.) Netscape will recognize that the files do not exist in the original location, and use relative paths to determine the new location.

You could either create a new profile and give it a unique name, using the Netscape Profile Manager (you can even change the profile location to an easier to find location). Or, you can use the existing profile, your choice.

The only quirk in the above method (replacing the contents of the WinXP profile's SLT folder with a backup from the Win98 .SLT folder) would be that the old "Win98" profile path, as set in the prefs.js file, for the Cache folder location may still be used. Check in Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Cache for the "Cache Folder" location and change it to the current Documents and settings\...\...\xxxxxx.SLT folder location for the WinXP profile.

ezstock wrote:Know anything about www.atory.com/Dupe_Checker_PRO

No, I don't know about www.atory.com/Dupe_Checker_PRO - I tend not to fool with third-party utilities like that too often. I'm not a "gadget" person :)
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Postby ezstock » Sun 15 May, 2005 10:01 am

Alice, If you copy your profile to any optical media (CDR, CDRW, DVD-R, etc.), your folder and all files and folders within it will become write-protected. This is due to the "read-only" nature of the medium. To combat this, zip up your profile folder with a file archival program, such as WinZip

Does this mean that my CD files will not work? I feel like I go 1 step forward then back. OR is it saying that I should zip my profile folder from my CD, then move it to pc HD I must go,, church time, I need to re read. I have nothing in current Mail folders at this time, so would think no problem to move entire profile
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Postby Alice » Sun 15 May, 2005 11:43 am

ezstock wrote:Alice, If you copy your profile to any optical media (CDR, CDRW, DVD-R, etc.), your folder and all files and folders within it will become write-protected. This is due to the "read-only" nature of the medium. To combat this, zip up your profile folder with a file archival program, such as WinZip
I was going to mention that issue specifically, but forgot :oops: - It's mentioned on this page, which I linked to earlier:
http://ilias.ca/netscape/profilefaq/#transferring

If you'd like to backup your entire profile, the easiest way to do it is to simply copy your entire profile folder to a safe location. You may want to clear your cache before doing so.

Note: If you copy your profile to any optical media (CDR, CDRW, DVD-R, etc.), your folder and all files and folders within it will become write-protected. This is due to the "read-only" nature of the medium. To combat this, zip up your profile folder with a file archival program, such as WinZip or WinRAR.

ezstock wrote:Does this mean that my CD files will not work? I feel like I go 1 step forward then back. OR is it saying that I should zip my profile folder from my CD, then move it to pc HD I must go,, church time, I need to re read. I have nothing in current Mail folders at this time, so would think no problem to move entire profile
On my WinXP system, I can simply uncheck the FOLDER Read-only attribute, and I'll get a dialog box asking if I would like to apply that change to all files and subfolders. If I agree, then ALL files and subfolders will have the read-only attribute removed. WinXP makes things much simpler, doesn't it?

So, copy any folder from your CD-Rom to your hard drive, such as the Windows\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles folder, right-click the Profiles folder, select Properties, and UNcheck the Read-only Attribute and click OK. See what happens.
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Postby ezstock » Sun 15 May, 2005 4:37 pm

It's done :D I now have ALL my ins, outs, trash, and special folders. Thank You folks. Nice that there are those that take time to help us.
This is what happened at the end of this task::
I found my profiles folder on one of my backup disks I had made just a month ago. I took the ' - - - mb.slt folder and tryed to send from disk to My Documents folder. It copied almost to the end and then it gave me; 'Can not Save: The volume for a file has been externally altered so that the opened file is no longer valid' I about cryed. I first thought,, zip that folder, try again. Then I decided to look at 'My Documents' folder, there it was. Thank You LORD! I then proceeded to remove my empty mail folders that were just created with the new N7.2 mail set up (' - - - wc.slt) and in their place put the mail folders (only) that had been moved from disk to My Doc. folder. I also copied the 'history' and 'address' files that were 'in' ' - - -wc.slt'. closed out of windows explorer, opened Net. Mail and sure enough what I was hoping to see was there. I then (for the first time w new 7.2) tried my password for my account - - oh yes, mail came. Address book, yes. Sent, yes that too worked.
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Postby Alice » Sun 15 May, 2005 5:15 pm

Glad to hear of your success. Thanks for posting back with the details of how you restored your backed-up profile data.

If you didn't do so already, right-click your Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles folder now, select Properties, and clear the "Read-Only" attribute box, and OK that. You don't want any of the Profiles' files or subfolders to be read-only.

Best wishes,

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Postby Alice » Mon 16 May, 2005 6:51 am

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ezstock wrote:Sorry, but any ideas, I uncheck readonly box click 'apply', asks for all sub folders?, I say ok, then say ok again to exit. But next time the box is filled for 'readonly' again. Even after complete shutdown.


The "read-only" box is filled for all folders, as far as I can tell. You'll get the same dialog box, whether or not there are any read-only files contained in the folder, as I found when I tested just now.

.... if there ARE any read-only files, then the attribute will be removed.
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Postby Snow123 » Mon 10 Mar, 2008 4:26 am

You could either create a new profile and give it a unique name, using the Netscape Profile Manager (you can even change the profile location to an easier to find location). Or, you can use the existing profile, your choice. :D
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Postby James » Mon 10 Mar, 2008 10:12 am

Why do you insist upon digging up old threads????
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Postby Fulvio » Mon 10 Mar, 2008 1:35 pm

Well, the information is useful, for those who seem stuck in the past. But, to make anything useful, it is important to provide possible paths, and any problem which a rookie may run into ( such as Hidden Files, etc).
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