SillyDog701

[geffr]

Per my previous post about crashing after installing the 1.04 upgrade, after a couple hours of troubleshooting the solution required ALL of the following:

1. Uninstalling 1.04 & reinstalling 1.03
2. Deleting my profile & restoring from a backup created before the 1.04 install
3. Restoring Windows registry from a backup created before the 1.04 install

During troubleshooting, I also discovered that the crashing issue also effected Netscape 7, but NOT IE; I assume some shared file used by Moz was damaged by the 1.04 install. It also got worse over time, not just impacting ebay.

Does anyone know if there is a zip file for 1.04 available like there was for the FF 0.x releases? That would likely avoid the issues I ran into here. I would like to upgrade for the security fixes.

I have 2 pc's & did the identical install on both. My older machine had no problems, but my main computer really didn't do well with the 1.04 install. It would be nice if Moz made a simple version upgrade to be a little less of a headache - after what I dealt with this evening, most average users would say "give me back IE!".

Geff R

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 Firefox/1.0.3

[Don_HH2K]

Unfortunately, Mozilla discontinued ZIPped releases of Firefox in favor of the installer program. All is not lost, though, as I've just found an updater on Mozilla's FTP server that can be run from within Firefox. See if update-1.0.4.xpi works.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Donzilla/0.7PR2 (WML/1.3; WML/1.2; WML/1.1; WML/1.0)

[Pu7o]

you can also get the nightly zip which is equivalent to the release (check the ffox 1.0.4 build date)

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/312.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/312

[Don_HH2K]

In that case, I believe it's this one (a direct link to a ZIPped build of the 2005-05-11 aviary ZIPped build).

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Donzilla/0.7PR2 (WML/1.3; WML/1.2; WML/1.1; WML/1.0)

[beanboy89]

Chase Phillips, the Mozilla Foundation Build Engineer wrote in his weblog why the Mozilla Firefox zipped builds have been discontinued.

During previous releases, a number of people grabbed the .zip package and used that in their Firefox installation directory. When Firefox 1.0.1 rolled around, they grabbed the .exe installer package. When they setup 1.0.1 using the installer, a lot of them chose the same installation location in which they'd unzipped the .zip file. This led to their Firefox 1.0.1 installation crashing repeatedly and (very!) mysteriously.

you can also get the nightly zip which is equivalent to the release (check the ffox 1.0.4 build date)

That would be the best thing you could do for now; use a nightly. In your case, you should be looking for an equivalent build to the Firefox 1.0.4 release, so you should probably look in the 2005-05-11-13-aviary1.0.1 directory of Mozilla's FTP server.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.8b2) Gecko/20050513

[Pu7o]

You might want to try this link as well http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/ ... .0.1-l10n/ if you want an internationalized version (i.e. in another language)

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/312.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Safari/312

[geffr]

Thank you for the help. I'm going to run 1.03 another day to make sure it stays stable (so far, so good) & then try one of the zipped nightlies.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 Firefox/1.0.3

[Fulvio]

Thank you for the help. I'm going to run 1.03 another day to make sure it stays stable (so far, so good) & then try one of the zipped nightlies.

I went back about what you said in the previous post, about crashes at the ebay site, and then looked at what you said at this thread. And, I am not sure that I understand everything. I will try to summarize, and see if this is what happened: It appears that 1.0.3 was ok, but crashes occurred when you installed 1.0.4, but you say that Netscape7 is also crashing.
Also that you installed 1.04 on top of 1.03. and, then you followed the sequence given in your first post, so: you reinstalled 1.03, but used the same profile used by the original 1.03. By the way it is immensely easier to create a new profile, starting from scratch, instead of using what you had before.
But looking more closely all I know that you had some crashes. You have Win98 which is sensitive to resources overuse. And, kernel32 crashes mean that you are overtaxing the system. That will not affect IE, which part of the OS. But more than one browser will be affected.
I don't know why Firefox1.04 put thing over the edge, but you may, most likely have some startup item too many.
I had 128 MB RAM in my old Win98, and I was, religiously, keeping my statup items to a minimum, and having cable I was tempted to use some music player, along with a browser. I don't recall crashing, but came close. I was looking at the system resources usage, and, once was down to 7% resources left. Not good.
Take a look at what you have at the startup (Start|Run|type msconfig|Startup and see if you have too many things on. Beside Explorer, and Systray, you need only an antivirus (preferably not a resource hog), and a firewall. Anything else can be unchecked.
Now, any crashes after doing this would be serious.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8b2) Gecko/20050509 Firefox/1.0+

[geffr]

I'm almost certain that it's a Windows system file issue, not a resource issue (also as sure as can be that it's not a virus or spyware). The crashing problem has come back & actually gotten much worse where IE is just about the only program it's not affecting. I'm starting to suspect that this may have been caused by the latest buggy Microsoft security patch, rather then Firefox, but I'm not 100% certain. After more time spent trouble shooting then I'd care to admit to (or document here!) I'm thinking it's time for that long put off upgrade to XP (which I purchased last December & haven't installed).

If anyone here has the knowledge to interpret Dr Watson logs, please let me know; I think that's about my last hope short of format/:C

Geff

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4

[geffr]

I apologize; after much trouble shooting it appears 95% likely that it was a coincidence that my pc's issues started moments after i installed the Firefox update. (While i'm afraid that the moment I write this the pc Gods will frown on me & something else will go wrong!) I currently believe the issues were caused by an overheated cpu which was caused by a cpu fan gunked up with cat hair & fuzz.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4