SillyDog701

[Mandrake]

That may be true, but talking about rendering engines and the ability to render pages correctly, even IE 6 is far ahead of Netscape 4.x.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.1; Linux 2.4.21-99-default; X11; i686; en, en_GB)

[Wellander]

Hi,
If I love the old browsers I love them.
Idf I think that they are good they are good.
It is opinions.

UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)

[Fulvio]

Browsers are as good as the pages which are written by the Websites.
Anyway the thread is going nowhere. I don't think we know any more than we did when we started, other than personal opinions. We fully know how you love old browsers, and I went through a phase like that. However, if you want them to work for you to perfection, you have to be prepared to pay the consequences or do quite a bit of persuading.

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[wolverine]

If you got sites that are heavy on government and education. You will have to end up supporting older browsers. If your site is more entertainment you can code it for who you want but most do not blame their browser when a page does not load but the site itself.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[jksteinhauer]

Hi,
If I love the old browsers I love them.
Idf I think that they are good they are good.
It is opinions.

The '57 Chevy Belair was a classic car but you won't see Chevrolet rolling one off of any assembly line anymore. The advances that have been made since that model was produced far exceed the standard of that day and the changes made since that time work so well have become the new standard, just as Mozilla/Netscape is setting. Unless you're a whiz shade tree mechanic or extremely well versed in code, for your own private viewing, you're just not going to patches of road or web pages that are going to cater to such an antique car or piece of software - no matter how classic it is.
The classic look is provided however to give you that old feel of the classic Netscape. I will say this however; it would be nice to see some themes that resemble even more closely the Netscape 4.x look, or even the 3.x's, 2.x's, even 0.9-like would be interesting to see.

(Afterthought: a Mosaic theme would be superb, even using the Mosaic logo for a throbber. Yeah baby!)

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040421

[casey1992]

Standards have been around forever; they're not new. Part of the problem is that Netscape 4 is still a product of the browser wars with IE. Each side was coming up with proprietary code.

A huge problem with Netscape 4 is that its CSS implementation is extremely shaky. It only supports part of the standard, and doesn't know how to deal with the rest. Now that the market share of this old browser is so extremely low, it just doesn't make sense to try to design for all its quirks. While many new browsers also have low market shares, they tend to support standards-compliant code and therefore don't cause a lot of trouble.

UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040415 Firefox/0.8.0+

[DJGM]

. . . it would be nice to see some themes that resemble even
more closely the Netscape 4.x look, or even the 3.x's, 2.x's,
even 0.9-like would be interesting to see.

(Afterthought: a Mosaic theme would be superb, even
using the Mosaic logo for a throbber. Yeah baby!)

There is a Gold theme for Mozilla 1.x that uses the toolbar button icons from Netscape 3.xx



It hasn't been updated for ages though, and only works for Mozilla 1.0.x and Netscape 7.0.

(IIRC . . . this old theme does actually use the old Mosaic NetScape throbber . . . )

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